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Post #1: 6th May 2016 11:23:58 PM 
Congrats you three, you all played hard to get here and there's no one here who doesn't deserve to be.

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James: I had a lot of fun playing with you. I love the fact that you, me, and Spencer were a thing since the beginning, and that the Jaspencerisa (sounds like a spice remember? ;)) chat we made like the second day of the game lived all the way till the end. You were solid and dependable and loyal and pretty much everything you could ask for from an ally. Also older than me, which was cool. ;)

My first question for you is more of a statement that I'm looking for your comments on, and that would be that there were times I marveled at how uninvested you sometimes seemed. For example, before the Jonny vote and before my idol play, two HUGE important votes, both times you left two minutes before the vote read, once to watch television and once to go hiking. There were a few other examples like that but those are the two that come to mind. It's really hard for me to understand how you could not want to be there with us, stomach in knots and SUPER nervous that everything was going to blow up in our faces and also excited for it to maybe go right. I was surprised that you weren't DYING to see how these things played out, like the rest of us were, and lacked the passion of your opponents. I felt like you were here and you liked it fine but were not really in the trenches with us and it was seemingly by choice. In the end it cost me my game, when you decided to sign off an hour before deadline and promised to be back ten minutes before it so we could move the votes onto Julia if need be. Well, we DID need to, but you signed on at deadline on the dot so we were unable to do anything. It's frustrating for me to be here knowing that if you'd just come back, or not left at all, that we could have at LEAST forced a tie. It's difficult to be angry with you because you are super sweet and pleasant like everyone knows and has always known, and it's also difficult to feel like my leaving could have been avoided and was partially due to one of my closest allies.

My second question for you is, there were several points where we swore we'd go to rocks for each other. Would you have actually followed through on this?

All that being said, it was a pleasure to play this game with you and I really did enjoy our time together. Thanks, James. :)


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Spencer: You were everything to me here and you know that. I feel like I got to see your game PRETTY well all the way through, I'm sure you had some side stuff going on but I feel like for the most part we always knew the important things each other were doing, and always had each other's backs. So my question is more about your opponents' games. You answered almost every jury question before the other two, after having seen some of their responses are there any points that were made you'd like to address/dispute/add?

Also, do you think winning Biggest Snake impacted your game? Do you feel like things changed either good or bad for you because of it, or was it pretty inconsequential in the long run? Do you truly believe you were a snake or did you just embrace it because others did?

Thanks for everything, I love you. <3


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Julia: You are a sweetheart and I very much enjoyed talking to you in this game. I think things between us got dicey around the JFP vote but before that I would have considered you right behind Spencer and Jonny for me. I've been a little sad to hear since being out that you had a few less than kind things to say about me but hopefully outside of the context of the game we'll get along better.

My question for you is a chance to redeem yourself for that final immunity challenge. :) You have been touting your social game as your reason for making it here but was only able to identify one quote. I'd like you to go back through the prejurors and say one personal thing you learned about each of them. For the Coasts you never met, you can say something you heard from someone else or a way that you know they impacted the game.

Thanks Julia, it's been fun. :)
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Post #2: 7th May 2016 9:32:58 AM 
Hey there Marisa,

I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can...

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My first question for you is more of a statement that I'm looking for your comments on, and that would be that there were times I marveled at how uninvested you sometimes seemed. For example, before the Jonny vote and before my idol play, two HUGE important votes, both times you left two minutes before the vote read, once to watch television and once to go hiking. There were a few other examples like that but those are the two that come to mind. It's really hard for me to understand how you could not want to be there with us, stomach in knots and SUPER nervous that everything was going to blow up in our faces and also excited for it to maybe go right. I was surprised that you weren't DYING to see how these things played out, like the rest of us were, and lacked the passion of your opponents. I felt like you were here and you liked it fine but were not really in the trenches with us and it was seemingly by choice. In the end it cost me my game, when you decided to sign off an hour before deadline and promised to be back ten minutes before it so we could move the votes onto Julia if need be. Well, we DID need to, but you signed on at deadline on the dot so we were unable to do anything. It's frustrating for me to be here knowing that if you'd just come back, or not left at all, that we could have at LEAST forced a tie. It's difficult to be angry with you because you are super sweet and pleasant like everyone knows and has always known, and it's also difficult to feel like my leaving could have been avoided and was partially due to one of my closest allies.


This is literally the first time that I heard about any of this...I didn't realize that my absence had anything to do with you being voted out. If that is the case, then I am very sorry. Had I been aware of this, I would have done what I needed to do to make sure that things were different. Again, if you are on the jury because of me, I am sorry. That is the furthest thing from what I wanted.
It is true though. I did not put as much time into this game as many of you did. I wanted to, but it had to take a backseat to real life. Many of the times that I had to jump off, I had to make up excuses for what I was doing because I was afraid of giving too much personal information away. But, in fact...I tried to spend as much time with this game as I could because I felt that the hosts and you fellow players deserved that.
But this game had to take a back seat in many cases. I have my own reasons for that...but it was essential for me to play the game that way. In reality, I couldn't play the game that Spencer did because I simply did not have the time to devote to being in every conversation and being a part of everything at all times. I had to play the behind the scenes game because that is all that I could devote. I did as much as I could to protect myself at the beginning of the game, and to affect the moves that were being made at the end.
To be fair, I truly accomplished everything that I wanted to in this game. I wasn't the first boot. I made the merge. I made the jury. Had I been voted out and been part of the jury, I would have been thrilled. The abuse that I'm taking now is all gravy. Bitter dumpster gravy.

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My second question for you is, there were several points where we swore we'd go to rocks for each other. Would you have actually followed through on this?


Absolutely. Going to rocks is part of the experience. I was actually psyched with Julia flipped at 4 and tied the vote! More awesome Survivor shit! The more, the better! So, yes...rocks...yes.

But for now, it must be goodbye. For Mother's Day weekend my wife wanted to go camping in Shenandoah National Park, and so like much of my game...it appears I must be absent for this as well.
Thank you all for everything you did to make this game as much fun for me as possible. I hope that my presence in it made your games a bit better as well. I love you all, and I'm sorry if I said or did anything that makes it not seem that way. Have a great weekend...and I'll talk to you after. And friend me on Facebook! I gave Chelsea the link.

Now go outside!

And call your mothers. She misses you.
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Post #3: 7th May 2016 8:06:16 PM 
Spencer: You were everything to me here and you know that. I feel like I got to see your game PRETTY well all the way through, I'm sure you had some side stuff going on but I feel like for the most part we always knew the important things each other were doing, and always had each other's backs. So my question is more about your opponents' games. You answered almost every jury question before the other two, after having seen some of their responses are there any points that were made you'd like to address/dispute/add?


Really I didn't like you. <3. Just kidding, you really were the rock this game. I honestly can say we will be friends after this all over and if I'm in LA we should meet up!

I think I've addressed most of James's points but I've not really had a chance to layout my perspective on some of things Julia has argued in this FTC. I'd have liked to do it sneakily by subtley putting it into my other questions but fuck it.

- The 2v2 insurance

Julia has claimed that voting with Kat, to create the 2v2 split, was an insurance policy. That just doesn't make sense to me. She knew we were voting for Kat, Kat knew we were voting for her, everyone knew we were voting for Kat. Had we wanted to backstab her it wouldn't have been hard to tell Kat to flip on her or at the very least tie the votes 2-2 because James and I were voting the same way. So if anything she exposed herself to a tie break challenge she would have lost. Julia is just as pathetic as I am in challenges and considering that James beat Kat she had no shot of beating James. How is exposing yourself to a tiebreaker you'd lose insurance? Julia had no sway over the f4 vote if myself and James had wanted her out she was gone. Had i lost immunity at least I'd have been going against her in the 2v2 and not James.


- Spencer is a Meatshield argument

So as FTC started been labeled as the 'Meatshield' of the other two FTC contestants. I don't really see how I could have been a meatshield for Julia considering we were on other sides of the alliances the entire merge up and when she had a shot at taking me out didn't at F6 & F5. Wasn't Dana infact my meatshield in that vote? (3 votes Dana 2 Votes Spencer)

How is it more impressive that someone survived behind a meatshield the entire game than the meatshield actually surviving the whole game? I was either consider a big threat in this game or I wasn't a meatshield. Either way, I think it's impressive that I've survived this long with a target on my back. The history of this game is being revised and muddled with so extra points can be argued.

Now I believe I was James's meatshield, whether or not he consciously chose to hide behind that or not is a different matter. If I was Julia's meatshield because I was someone she'd easily beat at the end and would simultaneously take the heat for her throughout the game. Why did she say in this very FTC that she would have voted me out at F4 if she had won immunity?

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Had Spencer not won the Final immunity, that's who my vote would have been for. Tying the vote made the most sense to me because it was an insurance policy.


It doesn't quite make sense. I know this was later amended to I don't mind 'who was voted out at the FTC' but generally the person with immunity votes out the person who is their perceived biggest threat to winning the game.

To concluded.
1) It's impressive that I have two people on separate alliances that consider me a meatshield
2) I survived as the Meatshield
3) IF, None of the above is true they have lied throughout this TC.
4) The bigger perceived threat in the Game, Dana, took my place at F5.



- Julia's epic social game.


I've said before perception is reality in this game and I do love that quote. I think it encapulates so much of the survivor game in just a few words. That said I'll always try and change it.

By a lot of people, Julia has been touted as social queen so she's obviously done something right. I never really considered that her strong aspect or obviously I wouldn't have voted Kat out so merrily. Yes, I was aware most people liked her but how can you play an incredibly strong social game as a FTC contestant (james to for that regard) and not talk to someone else in teh game until f7/8? She discarded Brad from the start of the game and outright disrespected him in his final question. She didn't talk to Gerv at all. She's trashed you a few times throughout the FTC because she didn't think she'll get her vote. Those are not aspects I would consider strong social play. Yes, she has built strong relationships with the people she was aligned with. People she thought were useful to her game and people she could get votes off at FTC. Other than that I really don't think she's made the effort that real social queens like Sandra made. I could well be accused of disregarding the strategetic element to the social game, but to myself, the most important part of the social game is investing your time to get to know the people you are playing with. Even if they can't offer you something in return. Furthermore, an epic social game isn't ghosting someone when you've decided to split from them. Or lying for no reason such as in the F5 and F4 votes. Own up to your shit even if it's hard. It personally annoyed me so much how she constantly talks about how myself and JFP betrayed her constantly whilst never admitting to the times she had lied. When I voted Eliza you voted JFP! Neither of us trusted each other, I never believed you were voting Sydney. Finally, she got 1/20 on the game designed to test your understanding of the players you have played with! That IS 5 times worse than a person who came in third in that challenge.

She's a witty and charismatic person, but there is definitely flaws her in her social game.

As far as me never changing my gameplay and 'LOVING THE SPOTLIGHT' i think I answer that in the second question.

Also, do you think winning Biggest Snake impacted your game? Do you feel like things changed either good or bad for you because of it, or was it pretty inconsequential in the long run? Do you truly believe you were a snake or did you just embrace it because others did?



It did impact my game. Majority rules came at a really bad time for me, I'd just been caught typing in the wrong chat and that exposed how I was exchanging information from Sakai to Yourself. This was totally my mistake however I didn't have time to do any damage control before the challenge. I knew 100% knew I was going to be voted biggest snake as soon as I saw that question.


Being publically branded as a snake and most in control is never a good thing. It's probably one of the worst things that could happen to anyone in Survivor. It was ultimately bad for my game as it blew up my spot and I could no longer get to the end as in the style I'd wanted when i signed up for this game. So changed I it up.

Clearly people believed I was manipulative, shady and running the game. By embracing the title i hoped to lessen the target and make it more of a joke than something real. I hoped to make it something to make fun of* rather than making it a weapon to really use it against me. I mean how dangerous is a snake if it's in the open and you a can see it coming? I personally would be more worried about the snakes that are hidden and I hoped people would see it in teh same way . Had I tried to retreat and smooth it over with people would have viewed it as the same behaviour that had lead to me being voted a snake in the first place. I think it must have to some degree worked. As Sydney said in her Jury question, she didn't even view me as a snake and she was impressed people kept me in despite my reputation. I believe this was because my snakey reputation was no longer something that could be used to vote me off. This alongside my relationships saved me from being voted out.


I do believe I was a snake gameplay wise before the majority rules question in one sense. I was content lying, backstabbing and playing all the sides. On the other hand, I think has negative contentations beyond gameplay that don't apply to me. I think I was fairly nice this game, I respected people, I didn't lie when there was no need to (barr one time) and I was friendly with everyone.

If i was or wasn't a snake playing like one after MR playing like that wasn't much an option for me anymore. I made sure I was out there in the open and people saw me coming. I never had to stab any of closet allies in the back, I believed I'd win against James & Yourself, Jonny had already been voted out, Kat and Julia flipped over to our side and Dana knew I was voting her from the start of F5. I told Eliza i was voting for her and i did, I told Dana i was voting for her and I did and I told Kat i was voting for her and I did.

HOWEVER I quite like the Snake title so I'm not going to give it back even if I don't think it's truly accurate.


That concludes my final tribal council, I'll be around if i need to respond to anything else but other than that thanks for the checks and hearing me out!

*this is joke, laugh about. The phrasing used in my answer is potentially British slang if you didn't understand it

** This may have come across as tacky but I know the position I'm in and I do feel like going second in questions allows you to alter your responses accordingly. So I don't mind going all out.



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Post #4: 7th May 2016 8:29:28 PM 
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Post #5: 8th May 2016 12:19:05 AM 
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My question for you is a chance to redeem yourself for that final immunity challenge. Smile You have been touting your social game as your reason for making it here but was only able to identify one quote. I'd like you to go back through the prejurors and say one personal thing you learned about each of them. For the Coasts you never met, you can say something you heard from someone else or a way that you know they impacted the game.

Thanks Julia, it's been fun.


Hi Marisa <3

1. Chicken - I didn't get to know Chicken, but it's the first time I've ever seen this kind of rep choice. Anyone who chooses someone like Chicken has gotta be a funny dude.

2. Tom - The only thing I know about Tom is he was the only male on Ozato. I know that he did well in that immunity challenge with the weapons and come to think of it I think he murdered me the first time LOL. Aw, yeah, rip Tom. :heart:

3. Baylor - The first casualty of the Mountains, kinda weird tbh. I wanted to talk to her because of her screen name and I think her singing career is going to pick up any time. Just keep praying to the Baygods.

4. Sugar - I loved her and we along so great. I know that she loves jalapeno cheddar Doritos and her favorite food group is dairy. <3 My fondest memory of Sugar is her knowing instantly who Shogungekomon was and I'll never forget that.

5. Michele - OH WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. I loved her super hard and was legit looking forward in working with her. I know that she's a bank teller at Chase and that she was always lit af.

6. Sash - He gave me insight on Butch/Gervase/Reynold having a tight trio and that they made it obvious they didn't wanna work with him or Debbie. He seemed like a cool guy, just needed to be more active.

7. Debbie - I learned from Debbie that she didn't give up and were completely relentless. She really tried every angle she could to scale the mountain, but she kept falling back into the coast.

8. Butch - Never did speak to Butch, but I heard about his epic blindside through the grapevine. If you're gonna go out in an ORG, go out like Butch.

9. Reynold - I know that Reynold tried to take out Caleb before he left. I think they got into a fight before he ended up flaring out. If only I got to know the Aso boys. :/

10. Matty - The one thing I'll remember about Matty is how he was inactive the first few days because his charger was broken and he has to have a make shift one with weird objects scattered through his room. He was also the first ally I had get voted out, so that kinda hits home.



There you go Marisa! I hope this reedems myself and shows that I do have quite the social game. :P



FTC DONE.

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