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Post #1: 6th May 2016 2:17:07 PM 
First of all, congratulations. You three did what 21 of us couldn’t. You all took different paths to get there, and each one of you has your strengths and your weaknesses. Obviously, only one of you can get my vote. I don’t know which one of you that will be. I’m asking each of you a single question, so I want a detailed response.

With that said…

James Posted Image James


Out of everybody in this game, I think I had the most conversations about real life with you. You were one of the nicest and easiest people to talk to. Especially once the merge hit, I’d talk to you about anything. Usually, that was what we each made for supper – or, rather, what you made for supper and what I burned.
However, I don’t know if I ever had a single strategic talk with you. That isn’t your fault – I didn’t ever try to. I saw your loyalty to Spencer and the rest of Ki. I knew we weren’t destined to be allies.
You were perceived to be most likely to flip by a few people once the merge hit. Many people would talk to you and try to get a feel for where you were in your alliance. You’ve already said you teased the idea of flipping. Once you decided not to flip, how long did you keep trying to convince people you would, and how did that change your gameplay?
Bonus question – you don’t have to answer this (so the hosts don’t get mad at me): What did you make for supper?


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You were one of the first people I talked to. You brought that up to me at one point, and you promised you wouldn’t forget that. I like to think that we had a mutual respect for each other.
At the double tribal council where I was voted out, you played me. I’ll admit that. But you did it without telling me a single lie. And that is impressive. I thought I was protecting myself by promising to vote for each other, but it sealed my fate, and ended up being my doom.
I don’t actually think you lied to me a single time, except for when I was lying to you as well, such as the Fairplay boot. You seemed to think we were bound to be against each other. Honestly, I thought the same way. At any point, did you consider working with me, or was it always supposed to be Sakai against Ki at the end?


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Julia… My vote is yours to steal. It’s up to you. Before I say anything - do not bullshit me. Tell me the truth. Sucking up will not earn my vote. Honestly will.
You were the very first person I talked to in this game. I’m fairly sure I was the first person you talked to as well. You were my first ally, and my closest for most of the time we were together. At some points, I considered you as a friend. At others, I wasn’t so sure. You seemed to be on or off with me. I never really knew how you felt, until some nights you’d come gushing back to me. I don’t know if that was strategy, or legitimate emotion, but I fell for it.
I told you on day 1 that I wanted to go to the end with you, and I was voted out still working towards that. I have absolutely no idea what your plan was. I’m fairly sure it didn’t involve me.
I told you over and over that Spencer was going to make a move. Either you didn’t believe me, or you lied to me. Either way, you trusted Spencer more than you trusted me. Even though I’d proven myself to you time after time after time, you trusted the person who wanted to vote out myself and my allies. I don’t know if they were your allies by the time the merge came. I was never sure of your loyalty after that. I hoped that you would stick with us, but that hope was slim.
During the Gervase vote, when we had a chance to take control of the game, you went back to Spencer. During the Jon vote, when we had a chance to take down the head of their alliance, you saved Spencer by making sure we redirected our votes. During the Caleb boot, when Sydney and I, who had been completely loyal to you the entire game, were pushing to vote Spencer, you pushed to vote Marisa, and Caleb went home. And, finally, when you had to choose between Spencer and myself… We all know who you chose.

Julia, that hurt. That hurt a lot.

It wasn’t that you were trying to get yourself further in the game. I understand that. What I don’t understand is why you, with your self-proclaimed “gift of gab”, couldn’t send me a single message on the day I was going to be voted out. You didn’t say a single word to me. You were well aware that I didn’t have an idol or any last trick to save myself. You had no reason, from my point of view, to do that.

I considered you an ally, partner, and friend.

Apparently, you didn’t think you owed me the respect to talk to me.

So, Julia, my question for you is more of a request. Walk me through each step of the game, and tell me what I meant to you at each point. How did it go from, “us three girls – we’re pretty tight”, to completely ignoring me on my last day? Did I ever actually mean anything to you, or was I just a pawn who showed up early to get thrown aside later?




That turned more negative than I was expecting… Anyway…
Good luck to all of you. Whoever wins, you earned it.

Thank you to all three of you, the hosts, and all other players.
 
   
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Post #2: 6th May 2016 2:42:59 PM 
You were one of the first people I talked to. You brought that up to me at one point, and you promised you wouldn’t forget that. I like to think that we had a mutual respect for each other.

I like to think so. I saw you as a formidable player and a big threat from day one. You weren't afraid to take the reigns and I both admired & liked that. My plans of roping in Brad with Caleb and Julia were quickly destroyed by your gameplay.


I don’t actually think you lied to me a single time, except for when I was lying to you as well, such as the Fairplay boot. You seemed to think we were bound to be against each other. Honestly, I thought the same way. At any point, did you consider working with me, or was it always supposed to be Sakai against Ki at the end?

Yes I did have the feeling that we were two ships set on an inevitable collision course felt that way. Largely you were a power player early on. Me, Julia and OG Ki would often talk about how strategic you were and how much of threat you were. With Jefra by your side, this threat was only enhanced Secondly, you built your power base up even further after the first tribe swap, you Jefra, Kat and Sydney I considered a very tight 4. I didn't think there was any room there for me to join that alliance over Caleb and Julia. Just like how you probably knew there was no place for you with my original Ki alliance still intact. Lastly, I didn't see any logical reason why you would work with me. I know you were a strategic player with a good understanding of the game and I couldn't see a reason why you'd want to work with me. So in a sense yes, I really didn't see much hope of the two tribes reigniting the mountains alliance once the merge hit.

So to answer your question, after the first day I didn't consider there was much chance we'd work together.
Had circumstances been different, I never would have written off working with you. You were an imposing player and if you were on my tribe from the start I think things would have been different. I also have to give you big props to you for surviving the first swap. I thought for sure Brad would flip and you'd be toast but you proved me wrong! I'd defo be up for playing a blood vs water game if we were partners. We'd make a formidable team.

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Post #3: 6th May 2016 3:28:56 PM 
However, I don’t know if I ever had a single strategic talk with you. That isn’t your fault – I didn’t ever try to. I saw your loyalty to Spencer and the rest of Ki. I knew we weren’t destined to be allies.

Yeah, it's weird that we never really talked too much strategy. I think that I enjoyed the personal conversations that we had so much, that I never felt that we needed to enter the game realm. I think that if either of us had felt like we wanted to talk strategy, that it would have come up in conversation naturally. It's too bad that we never got to become allies though...maybe in another game life!

You were perceived to be most likely to flip by a few people once the merge hit. Many people would talk to you and try to get a feel for where you were in your alliance. You’ve already said you teased the idea of flipping. Once you decided not to flip, how long did you keep trying to convince people you would, and how did that change your gameplay?

I believe that the last time that I considered flipping was after the vote that sent Caleb home. At that point in the game, I recognized that I was much more secure and had a lot more options working with the Ki tribe than flipping and trying to piece something else together. Any time the conversation came up after that, I would say that I was open to other options, but in reality I think that I had pretty much decided to stick with the Ki's.


Bonus question – you don’t have to answer this (so the hosts don’t get mad at me): What did you make for supper?

It's FRIDAY!!!

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Thanks Eliza!!

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Julia… My vote is yours to steal. It’s up to you. Before I say anything - do not bullshit me. Tell me the truth. Sucking up will not earn my vote. Honestly will.
You were the very first person I talked to in this game. I’m fairly sure I was the first person you talked to as well. You were my first ally, and my closest for most of the time we were together. At some points, I considered you as a friend. At others, I wasn’t so sure. You seemed to be on or off with me. I never really knew how you felt, until some nights you’d come gushing back to me. I don’t know if that was strategy, or legitimate emotion, but I fell for it.
I told you on day 1 that I wanted to go to the end with you, and I was voted out still working towards that. I have absolutely no idea what your plan was. I’m fairly sure it didn’t involve me.
I told you over and over that Spencer was going to make a move. Either you didn’t believe me, or you lied to me. Either way, you trusted Spencer more than you trusted me. Even though I’d proven myself to you time after time after time, you trusted the person who wanted to vote out myself and my allies. I don’t know if they were your allies by the time the merge came. I was never sure of your loyalty after that. I hoped that you would stick with us, but that hope was slim.
During the Gervase vote, when we had a chance to take control of the game, you went back to Spencer. During the Jon vote, when we had a chance to take down the head of their alliance, you saved Spencer by making sure we redirected our votes. During the Caleb boot, when Sydney and I, who had been completely loyal to you the entire game, were pushing to vote Spencer, you pushed to vote Marisa, and Caleb went home. And, finally, when you had to choose between Spencer and myself… We all know who you chose.

Julia, that hurt. That hurt a lot.

It wasn’t that you were trying to get yourself further in the game. I understand that. What I don’t understand is why you, with your self-proclaimed “gift of gab”, couldn’t send me a single message on the day I was going to be voted out. You didn’t say a single word to me. You were well aware that I didn’t have an idol or any last trick to save myself. You had no reason, from my point of view, to do that.

I considered you an ally, partner, and friend.

Apparently, you didn’t think you owed me the respect to talk to me.


Alright, I pretty much deserve everything you just said, not even gonna argue it out. Eliza, I'm sorry you feel this way and everything and I did genuinely enjoy all of our talks AND all of our strategic talk. I considered you my catch up buddy because we always filled each other in on what was going around. Especially during the first swap it was the most crucial time and I feel like that's when we used our buddy system so effectively. Beyond our strategy and everything like that, I always personally enjoyed our non-game talk. Those were genuine and I could TELL because you always took my advice and your Horror movie list would get longer with each passing day. ;) Hopefully afterwards we can chat because I have so much more for you to add!

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So, Julia, my question for you is more of a request. Walk me through each step of the game, and tell me what I meant to you at each point. How did it go from, “us three girls – we’re pretty tight”, to completely ignoring me on my last day? Did I ever actually mean anything to you, or was I just a pawn who showed up early to get thrown aside later?


Round 1:

The game just started and you pulled me and Jefra into an alliance to gain the majority instantly. I knew right there that I wanted to work with you! It's always so awkward on the first day because you're not sure whether to take it slow or play like it's your second time. I loved that you just went for it and obviously Jefra and I said yes. This alliance stuck all throughout premerge until that horrible swap, which I'll get to later. You and I talked and wondered who we should pick for a fourth member to gain majority. I wanna say that you pushed for Brad and I said we should reel in Caleb and Jefra agreed on Caleb? Something along those lines. Either way, you girls were everything to me in that round and along with Caleb. However, I did always consider you and Jefra tighter and myself as a third wheel which is why I branched off and grew closer with Caleb. I was still committed to Caleb's Angels, but I just needed someone who I felt had me as their #1. I still hold us getting that idol round one is an impressive feat.

Round 2:

Was more or less the same how I felt about you during round one. I think we still grew tight and we talked a bit about everything. Was this when I told you to stop what you're doing and to go watch 10 Cloverfield Lane? AREN'T YOU HAPPY I TOLD YOU TO? I know that we strategized about who we would vote off had we lost and it was most likely going to be Matty, despite my disdain for Brad, hahah. I remember you saying you had Brad and not to worry about him and I remembered that. :P

Round 3:

Because it brings me to this round where we get to say who stays on Sakai and gets sent to Ki. This decision was basically decided by us and I just said "I don't wanna be with Brad." We thought it would be smart to make sure Matty/Brad didn't get sent over together in case they figured out they were on the outs of Sakai and tried to do a ~big move~ so Caleb and I took Matty and you two took Brad. I spent this round asking what we should do and I think you said Debbie was the one who played really hard. You told me all the stuff Aso was saying that I relayed to paint the target on her back really huge. Sugar ended up leaving that round, for reasons explained numerous times, but our cross-tribal updates didn't end there!

Round 4:

Sash goes out this round entirely by accident HAHA. I ended up wasting (well not really, it did change the outcome) the vote doubler that we had and bought together which I was scared to actually tell you and Jefra! You know the story, Caleb was increasingly paranoid and I used it to make sure no matter he stayed. I think y'all were more annoyed with him, so good for me? :P I remember this round because Brad was floating around like untrustworthy bumblebee pretending he wasn't spreading everyone's shit and you would be like "I KNOW YOU'RE LYING TO ME?!" That was great, I loved talking about him with you. At this point you still meant very much to me. This was around the time that Spencer started seeing you as a threat and would drop subtle hints about it. I always just nodded and agreed, despite what he was saying was true, but I didn't want to go against you at all at that stage.

Round 5:

Debbie burns out this round thanks to the crazy vote where I think three people received votes? I know what was going over at your camp was you creating bonds with Ozato girls. I had my regards because it was BEYOND ME that Kat and Sydney wanted to work with you guys over the Aso boys. If we're being honest right now, I truly believed they were playing you guys and that they would most certainly stay with their coast counter parts. Again, I'm certain that you and I are still tight, but we were both separated on different tribes making other bonds with other people. I know you said sometimes you'd go from talking a lot to very little, but I'd like to think that was just when we got busy in our own tribes attempting to survive.

Round 6:

You definitely showed me what kind of player you are when this vote happened. I was shocked that Butch left. When you IM'd me and told me results I couldn't have been more happy that I had you on my side. We still chatted in the Girls chat almost every day and just hoped we would eventually wind up on the same tribe together. By this point I was laying down and getting closer to people of Ki. Most importantly Spencer and JFP. This time Spencer and I have already had a long term alliance deal to go far with each other and I was being brought in with the Ki-lliance.

Round 7:

This served to be useful because I wound up on a tribe with nothing BUT Ki and Jefra. Thankfully we were able to win the first immunity as a newly formed Sakai and Jefra and I could be spared another round. This is when Reynold went out and you seemed sure it would happen. By this point I started to get a read in on your game. I came to the conclusion that the reason why Kat and Sydney voted with you guys so much is because you obviously made a long term alliance deal yourself. I kinda grouped it as Kat/Caleb and Sydney/Eliza and this was when I thought you had other plans in mind.

Round 8:

Jefra and I survive by the skin of our teeth once again and Aso goes to tribal council. Matty's gone here, which started the Slaughter of Sakai. I remember us talking about how long it took to knock one of us off and we would end up eating those words the next two rounds. Again, I think we're still close here, maybe slowly drifting and thinking each other has a different game, but I still considered myself aligned with you.

Round 9:

This round was tricky and if only you threw the question to the immunity maybe things would have turned out different! :P Aso ended up blindsiding Brad (with the help of Spencer apparently meddling and telling Dana to get rid of him. From what I was told.) After we lost I knew I had good enough relationships with Ki to survive Jefra, but I also didn't want to campaign against any of them/vote them out if it was hopeless. I kind of told you that it was between me and her and we were just going to vote each other in case they were just lying because they were scared of an idol. You told me you didn't blame me for a second and you woulda done the same thing. You said just make sure you save yourself so we can reunite together and I had the same agenda. I ended up make it out of the woods and we were FINALLY back together again on the same tribe.

Round 10:

No bullshitting right? This is the round that should have saved us and instead it broke us. We were united and soaring high, but I made a move that I would soon end up regretting. I pushed for Gervase to go home that round because he's the only person I haven't spoken to even though other people in the game were ready to flip the game and make a big move. We had the side with you Kat, Sydney and Caleb who were ready to attack Spencer before he could get us-- which he was in the process of doing.

The true reason why is because I was in disbelief of his betrayal, along with the rest of Ki, especially since they all told me they still wanted to go Mountain strong. I ended up blowing up both sides plans and I think it all fell through and people just decided to vote out Gervase because he was the easiest vote. I could feel the tension between us on me not siding with you on that vote, but still managed to keep an open door for each other.

Round 11:

I did a lot of damage control with each side. I feel like my strategy of straddling two alliances in this game caught up with me and blew up in my face and it's a wonder I didn't get voted out last round because of it. Despite the proof of Ki playing me, I still had high hopes that they were still Mountain strong. Once I talked it over with people like Kat and Sydney and especially you, I went with who I should have went with originally and we voted out Jonny. I remember telling you and Kat that I'll go through with the move if we leave Dana out because they wanted to tell her. I told them that her and Spencer were close as ever and leaving her out of the JFP blindside is the only way it'll work.

Round 12:

We were up 5 - 4 and I was so committed to this new alliance it wasn't even funny. I feel like we reconciled our differences and we tried to make the best move we could. James won immunity, Dana had the necklace and they all won an all expense paid trip to Ukiyo and got a million idols. It was only between two people we could vote for. I remember you saying we should vote for Spencer, but I don't think it was just me saying it should be Marisa. I remember being down to vote Spencer, I even had a slithery parchment made in honor of him, but everyone thought he would obviously get the idol playing on him. If we listened to your gut and not our heads then our side probably would have won out. We incorrectly voted for Marisa and we lost our lead.

Round 13:

By this point my boat was rocked so much I didn't know which one wasn't sinking. I had my closest ally idol'd out of the game, another one of my closest allies turning out to be a huge snake and then there were you three girls who still stuck by me. We tried to make it out of there, but you guys were so gung-ho for doing rocks that I even remember Kat and I saying how awful human beings we are to be doing this. I know I said this before, but I was hesitant to flip. Like everyone thinks, it was Kat's idea to go for it and I rolled with it. I figured that I'd take this chance and make it out of this double boot and work with what I had in Final 6. The reason being because it was my game to be adaptive to any situation and any person this game threw at me. I thought I could use my social skills to win over a vote and maybe without you and Sydney there, I would come off as less threatening without an army of allies backing me.

The way you went out was a shitty and done to you by someone who didn't have your best interests at heart. I still to this point thought it was you and Sydney and one of Kat or I would be third wheeling it, but you were still my ally, Eliza. And you were a big part of my game.


I really hope this covers everything you asked for. The last thing I ever wanted to do in this game was hurt someone and betray them because I know how it is feels. I hope I showed you the evolution of our alliance and relationship and how it worked and every aspect of it. Let me know if there's anything else at ALL you need Eliza.

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Post #5: 7th May 2016 4:00:07 AM 
Spencer and Eliza for Blood vs Water 2 - you hear that hosts??

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I really hope this covers everything you asked for. The last thing I ever wanted to do in this game was hurt someone and betray them because I know how it is feels. I hope I showed you the evolution of our alliance and relationship and how it worked and every aspect of it. Let me know if there's anything else at ALL you need Eliza.

I understand why you flipped - I never blamed you for that. It's a game, and betraying people is a part of it. You were getting yourself farther in the game.
What I don't understand is why you wouldn't talk to me on my last day. You didn't need to tell me anything. Just a simple hi and a quick chat would have been enough. I thought you owed me that much, at least. Why did you choose to pretend I didn't exist instead?
 
   
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Post #6: 7th May 2016 1:39:21 PM 
Eliza Orlins @ 7/5/2016 4:00
Spencer and Eliza for Blood vs Water 2 - you hear that hosts??

James: +5 for pizza gifs

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I really hope this covers everything you asked for. The last thing I ever wanted to do in this game was hurt someone and betray them because I know how it is feels. I hope I showed you the evolution of our alliance and relationship and how it worked and every aspect of it. Let me know if there's anything else at ALL you need Eliza.

I understand why you flipped - I never blamed you for that. It's a game, and betraying people is a part of it. You were getting yourself farther in the game.
What I don't understand is why you wouldn't talk to me on my last day. You didn't need to tell me anything. Just a simple hi and a quick chat would have been enough. I thought you owed me that much, at least. Why did you choose to pretend I didn't exist instead?


You're completely right Eliza and this is something that I need to work on for the future and it's something that Sugar told me on her exit out of the game. She told me that even though it's just people behind a monitor that they're still people too with real feelings and real human beings. I'm not saying that I treated everyone like a robot or like cyberspace data, but I guess I get coward-like or embarrassed or scared when I'm voting out someone who was with me or who thinks I'm not voting for them. JFP said I ghosted him, Sugar told me I did it, I did it to you and I'm sure Dana felt the same way. To give you a reason, I don't think I can, but it wasn't at all to be intentionally malicious or to make you feel horrible. And if anything, it's probably going to cost me your vote and others as well.

Thanks again Eliza, for being a partner and a friend.

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I'm at work for the majority of the day, but I promise when I get home I'll spend the rest of the evening and night tackling Dana's, Marisa's and Kat's question.
 
   
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Post #7: 7th May 2016 2:13:53 PM 
Julia, thank you for admitting that.

I think I have everything I need. You three answered my questions really well. I have some thinking to do. Good luck to all of you!
 
   
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