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Episode 12 - The One Where Kate Puts On Her Game Face
 
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Post #1: 7th Dec 2014 6:45:58 PM 
It probably won't come this round, but Jacob seems a lot more vulnerable than he has all game, mostly due to Kate.

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Post #2: 7th Dec 2014 6:57:48 PM 
Eric/Kate <3333333
 
   
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Post #3: 7th Dec 2014 7:01:38 PM 
Still waiting/hoping for more details of what went down for the Lindsay vote before writing a full out essay, but I gotta say I lol'd at this from Kate's confessional:

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Funnily, I think I am more of a duo with Eric than with anyone, but if you asked anybody else, they would probably say something like "I don't think Kate likes Eric." Who knows if anyone has caught on?


Considering it's pretty much common knowledge now because SHE JUST TOLD THEM THEY WERE CLOSE FRIENDS IN A PREVIOUS GAME.

In short, yes they have caught on. And you can blame yourself for that <3

I wish we had more Kate confessionals. I'm starting to see why she and Lindsay were such good friends. OTT alliance ftw <3

But yeah it's a good thing Jacob has been controlling the game so well that they might get away with it. XD The good gameplay on J-Moneys part will hopefully outweigh the bad gameplay by Kate. Still, I love how Kate's mouth has somehow become the #1 threat for both Jacob and Eric's games.

Also poor Anthony losing both Lindsay and his contender edgic status :( It's been a tough round for him. BUT I STILL HAVE HOPE <3
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Post #4: 7th Dec 2014 7:10:18 PM 
Actually, I disagree. Jacob's latest confessional indicates that he does not think Eric/Kate are a "pair."
 
   
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Post #5: 7th Dec 2014 7:28:17 PM 
Ahh interesting. Weird that Jacob of all people would not pick up on that. He did mention possibly ditching Kate down the road since she's a liability, though I'm not sure he will actually do that as he only mentioned it in passing.

EDIT: And Kate did end up giving in and let him boot Lindsay.
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Post #6: 7th Dec 2014 8:00:45 PM 
i really want anthony to miraculously pull it out somehow, he has emerged as my favorite player after mike left

 
   
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Post #7: 7th Dec 2014 8:06:35 PM 
Anthony is awesome!!!! I really hope he can pull something together.
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Post #8: 8th Dec 2014 8:10:59 AM 
Perhaps I'm overreacting because this is the first time his name has even been brought up for a vote, but I do think there's a DECENT chance that Jacob goes. Obv, Spencer is still the front-runner to go because there's more pieces currently in place for it to happen, but I'd put Jacob right behind him, with a SMALL chance that either Anthony or Eric (the smallest) goes.

The thing is, I don't think Spencer is worth Anthony to go to a tie-breaker for, and I don't think the timing would be right for Kate to take out Jacob. It would leave her and Eric to fend for themselves. Keeping Jacob until at least 5 is the move for her.

For that reason, it seems most likely that Spencer is going at this point, but Jacob is definitely the most vulnerable he's been in the game and I don't see that target going away easily now. Perhaps it was too early to boot Lindsay and he should have sacrificed someone like Thomas to keep up appearances with Lindsay/Anthony for as long as he could, plus it would have given Spencer less options of people to work with as soon as his immunity run ended. If he loses, I think that's the move he looks back at to where it went wrong.



 
   
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Post #9: 8th Dec 2014 8:13:05 AM 
Also, I love Anthony too, so I'm completely alright with a potential Jacob boot. Anthony's been rock solid ever since his confessional fuck up. The only issue with his game was putting too much trust into Jacob, but he's realized that Jacob doesn't have his best interests in mind despite how much the two get along.

It would also really help Thomas out if Jacob went. I think a path for Anthony/Thomas going to final 2 after that would be pretty clear.
 
   
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Post #10: 8th Dec 2014 8:58:05 AM 
I 100% agree!

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Because its final 6 (even numbers) and Spencer is a huge immunity threat I think it's still most likely that Spencer goes (and I may also be overreacting) but Im soooooooo happy to see Jacob's power threatened for once! A) I'm rooting for Anthony (bestie) Thomas (future bestie) and Spencer (pick em bestie) b) if this happens and Jacob goes, this whole game is flipped upside down c) even if Jacob stays, his game seems a lot better because it makes the season more memorable and looks like he overcame legit threats.

Im so so so hoping there's a tie. <3

Normally I think there wouldn't be a good chance of this happening because everyone hates tie breakers BUT both Thomas and Anthony seem to realize they haven't done much in the eyes of the jury. They may be willing to make a big move because they seem to know they're the next two to go on most people's hit lists, and they both want to make a gamechanging move on their resumes if they get to the end. Go big or go home. And, of course, Spencer is a dead man walking without immunity so he'll go along with it.

Idk maybe I'm being super optimistic. I can't help it if I like entertainment <3

Jacob's been doing a great job of shutting things down so far, so I don't think it'd be a stretch if he diffused this too. But it is the most credible threat he's faced, and I completely agree with you that if he goes home it will be due to sending Lindsay home one round too early (which wasn't his original plan, but still). I also think he underestimated Anthony by a lot, and Thomas and Spencer to a degree as well. Also Kate running her mouth about her and Eric to Anthony is keeping Eric out of the plans so J-Money doesn't know the full story this time and, therefore, makes it a lot harder for him to diffuse.

As for rock drawing, for Anthony I don't think it'd be so much that he needs Spencer around as opposed to he needs to get one of the other three out. He seems to be seeing the writing on the wall even if Spencer is the target this time. It wouldnt be a stretch to deduce that its a better risk to draw rocks and have a good path to ftc/win than it'd be to take the risk to let Spencer go and hope that one of the three changes their minds next round to spare him. In addition, I'm not entirely sure Kate/Eric (especially Eric) would both risk taking rocks for Jacob, especially if the tie came as a complete surprise to them.

Again, I'm not sure Anthony and Thomas have completely decided on this yet so this is all fanfiction. But I'm just happy to see something happening.

One last point about Anthony trusting J-Money. While he definitely had too much trust in Jacob/Kate, I think a lot of it came from Lindsay's constant reassurances that they were solid. I maintain that Anthony is usually pretty solid in terms of strategy, but he allows himself to get blindly loyal (in this case to Lindsay) and will trust them enough to accept their observations even if they don't entirely match his own. This led to him to become blindly loyal to Jacob/Kate as well, which was obviously a terrible mistake. While this makes him a great ally, it also screws him over unless he's allied with the right people. On the plus side, it means he tends to play his best when he's a free agent so I still have hope he'll be able to make something work.

Although I think J-Money is playing an amazing game and it'd be devastating to watch it crumble at the last second for him (as a player, thats my absolute worst nightmare) Im rooting for an Anthony win because the path would be a lot more interesting.
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We play with honor. For the love of this game.
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Post #11: 8th Dec 2014 9:11:36 AM 
I love your novels.

About the last part, I agree, and I'd toss Thomas's name into the mix as well for someone I'd enjoy winning even if it meant Jacob's awesome game being sacrificed. Thomas has been tossed to the side a few times, so him coming out on top in his first game would be incredible. Plus, with his sappy confessionals, it'd make for a great story IMO. I don't think the best player in the game would be winning in that case, BUT I do not have a problem with that -- I'm a sucker for sentimental/entertaining players defying the odds over true gamers.
 
   
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Post #12: 8th Dec 2014 9:19:34 AM 
Steve @ 8/12/2014 14:11
I love your novels.

About the last part, I agree, and I'd toss Thomas's name into the mix as well for someone I'd enjoy winning even if it meant Jacob's awesome game being sacrificed. Thomas has been tossed to the side a few times, so him coming out on top in his first game would be incredible. Plus, with his sappy confessionals, it'd make for a great story IMO. I don't think the best player in the game would be winning in that case, BUT I do not have a problem with that -- I'm a sucker for sentimental/entertaining players defying the odds over true gamers.


Agreed, a Thomas win would be fantastic! Sometimes a player like Thomas should win over someone like Jacob because it mixes it up, and makes people aware that people can still be threats even if they're not the traditional threat type player.

Also I request this forum be renamed once again to "Steve and Elise Agree On Things". Seems more accurate.

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We play with honor. For the love of this game.
And with armor or without, we will toil in vain.
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Post #13: 8th Dec 2014 9:22:47 AM 
I think the most important thing we need to decide if we agree on is who we like based on Meet The Queens videos for S7 of RPDR. ABOUT TO WATCH!

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Post #14: 8th Dec 2014 9:33:40 AM 
Steve @ 8/12/2014 14:22
I think the most important thing we need to decide if we agree on is who we like based on Meet The Queens videos for S7 of RPDR. ABOUT TO WATCH!

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YES HUNTY <3

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Post #15: 8th Dec 2014 11:15:20 AM 
Omg they got Violet Chachki XD

Who knows? Maybe she'll give back Sharon Needles' crown if she wins!
With friend and foe we march to the battle plain.
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We play with honor. For the love of this game.
And with armor or without, we will toil in vain.
So that someday, someone, somewhere, will remember our name.

   
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