Slayer @ 5/12/2014 13:56

Dylan @ 5/12/2014 19:53 Slayer @ 5/12/2014 13:50 Dylan @ 5/12/2014 19:45 Jacob's already mentioned flipping the game around if Spencer wins immunity again so that would be exciting! The person I don't understand at this point right now is Eric. Like Aaron said, he's probably done the best job of the people left in the game of positioning himself to win right now with everything he knows, but he seems comfortable continuing to play under the radar. He's gotta know that Jacob is starting to be perceived as a leader, why not take control of the game right now?? In Eric's latest confessional, he says he heard from Kate that the Lindsay thinks the final four is herself/anthony/kate/jacob and instead of using this to his advantage he says now he just can't talk to Anthony and Lindsay as much.. Has he said anything about his actual FTC plans yet?? You can tell Jacob really understands the game where he talks in his confessional about how now this is the point in the game where you gotta start making moves that YOU can own yourself, so you can build a resume of reasons why you should win. He is doing the right thing at this point. Either there is some SERIOUS Jacob mist going on (which I would love :P) or Eric is just super confident in his friendships with Anthony, Lindsay and Mike and thinks that he'll still get their votes after riding in Jacobs pocket all the way to the end. The thing is, I'm not even sure Eric would get the Rockefeller vote in the end. All Jacob/Kate would have to do is reveal Eric had betrayed them the entire time, and it would a) piss them off on an emotional level and b) give the credit for everything Eric did all game to Jacob/Kate's manipulation. Yeah I know, that's why I'm wondering why he would actually want to go to the end with Jacob and Kate?? Has he said who he would actually want in his ideal ftc? I don't think I've read that anywhere. I'm not really sure, its been confusing me all season. I think he knew one or both of them before the game, because even on Rockefeller all he talked about was how he couldn't wait to join the other tribes and ditch Rockefeller.

Ohhh ya I think you're right. They played in Good vs Evil I think together or something. I remember hearing that.

Still though, how can he think that's his best chance to win?? He should be grabbing someone like Thomas right now and coming clean about everything.

I 100% agree.

Which is why I still refuse to join Hosty on the Eric train :P It's possible he's doing more moves than we see, but the results are the same nonetheless. He's handing more and more power to Jacob/Kate and weakening his own position.

And as a viewer, his secret alliance with Jacob has been both stopping almost any hope of an entertaining shakeup while not even guaranteeing Eric a final 2 spot, which I find really frustrating.

I'm not saying making a deal with Jacob was a bad idea to keep himself safe, but now would be the time to ditch deals with people that don't guarantee himself a finale spot with someone he could reasonably beat for deals that actually benefit him.

I think a running theme of this season is no one taking one step back and thinking what benefits their chances of winning. Which is a big reason why Jacob's taken over so easily.

Eric/Kate previously knew each other, but I don't think either has indicated they are more committed to each other than Jacob? Jacob seems like he's the #1 with both of them. He and Eric have a final two. Don't think he's made that deal with Kate, but I also don't know if she's the type of player that needs that reassurance. She might just assume it's those two to the end, and that's my best guess of what's going on there.

I was going to say that maybe the reason Eric has no reason in his mind to take Jacob out is because Jacob isn't really perceived as a leader, but he does have some info that should be making him think twice about going to the end with someone like him. He knows Lindsay and Anthony are tight with him, he has to know that Jacob is generally liked by everyone, etc. It's also possible he thinks he has no chance with Lindsay and he doesn't have the connections with the right people that he would need to flip to get to the end without either Jacob/Kate or Lindsay/Anthony.

WHO KNOWS. I do think his patience is impressive as I've said before, and his current strategy is great to get him to the end, but I don't see it as a winning game unless he cuts Jacob at the end (AND EVEN AT THAT, KATE IS WELL LIKED). Eric isn't disliked, but I haven't heard anyone other than Jacob really excited about him. Again, I think it's painfully obvious that Jacob is charismatic and is a hard beat, but maybe it isn't to them?

Also, Elise, I 100% agree that Jacob would be a better winner than Lindsay (he's not the only one, even though I think she's been such a huge character this season and a really awesome chick). When I think about it, yeah, it would be entertaining if things changed up and she got to the end... but really, you're right, it wouldn't be as satisfying of an outcome given how sloppy her play has been post-merge. I wouldn't necessarily be mad at that outcome, as again, I think Lindsay is GREAT... but J-Money, man. He's good. He's really good. I'm sure I could turn some people off by how much I talk him up, but WHATEVER. He's fucking good.

Someone could surprise us down the stretch, so I shouldn't be ready to crown Jacob's ass, but I am.

Steve @ 5/12/2014 20:38

Also, Elise, I 100% agree that Jacob would be a better winner than Lindsay (he's not the only one, even though I think she's been such a huge character this season and a really awesome chick). When I think about it, yeah, it would be entertaining if things changed up and she got to the end... but really, you're right, it wouldn't be as satisfying of an outcome given how sloppy her play has been post-merge. I wouldn't necessarily be mad at that outcome, as again, I think Lindsay is GREAT... but J-Money, man. He's good. He's really good. I'm sure I could turn some people off by how much I talk him up, but WHATEVER. He's fucking good. Someone could surprise us down the stretch, so I shouldn't be ready to crown Jacob's ass, but I am.

^^^
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Slayer @ 5/12/2014 14:43

Steve @ 5/12/2014 20:38 Also, Elise, I 100% agree that Jacob would be a better winner than Lindsay (he's not the only one, even though I think she's been such a huge character this season and a really awesome chick). When I think about it, yeah, it would be entertaining if things changed up and she got to the end... but really, you're right, it wouldn't be as satisfying of an outcome given how sloppy her play has been post-merge. I wouldn't necessarily be mad at that outcome, as again, I think Lindsay is GREAT... but J-Money, man. He's good. He's really good. I'm sure I could turn some people off by how much I talk him up, but WHATEVER. He's fucking good. Someone could surprise us down the stretch, so I shouldn't be ready to crown Jacob's ass, but I am. ^^^ Couldn't have said it better myself.

lol yeah by no means was I trying to say I want Lindsay to win over Jacob, because she's been careless with her gameplay and doesn't deserve the win in this game but I think Lindsay making it to final 4 or even 3 would make the game a hell of a lot more interesting in these closing rounds.

Steve @ 5/12/2014 14:31

I was going to say that maybe the reason Eric has no reason in his mind to take Jacob out is because Jacob isn't really perceived as a leader, but he does have some info that should be making him think twice about going to the end with someone like him. He knows Lindsay and Anthony are tight with him, he has to know that Jacob is generally liked by everyone, etc.

This is literally the only thing I can think of. Maybe Jacob isn't seen as that big of a character to the other players. But then I think, how the fuck do you talk to Jacob everyday and not pick up on that :P

Steve @ 5/12/2014 14:31

His current strategy is great to get him to the end, but I don't see it as a winning game unless he cuts Jacob at the end (AND EVEN AT THAT, KATE IS WELL LIKED). Eric isn't disliked, but I haven't heard anyone other than Jacob really excited about him. Again, I think it's painfully obvious that Jacob is charismatic and is a hard beat, but maybe it isn't to them?

My thoughts exactly. He's playing a fantastic 3rd place game at the moment lol I'm really starting to think the Jacob mist is a real thing.

Dylan @ 5/12/2014 13:51

Final 6 !! Could Chronicles for the first time ever have back to back female winners!?

You're forgetting Tara and Sarah. But I totally understand. I, too, like to forget that Sarah won

smh

let's just hope that Eric can win this. <3

Knowing what this challenge is gonna be, I'm not writing Spencer off yet. Granted I don't think he'll win the season, but I feel like Jacob is becoming too obvious. After all, I don't think anyone foresaw Elise winning at this point last season.

Sherlip @ 6/12/2014 1:37

Knowing what this challenge is gonna be, I'm not writing Spencer off yet. Granted I don't think he'll win the season, but I feel like Jacob is becoming too obvious. After all, I don't think anyone foresaw Elise winning at this point last season.

I saw myself winning <3

But yeah I see your point. He's definitely the front runner though as at the moment, and a lot of things would have to happen for the other side to take power. If Jacob loses itll have to be now (which, judging by everyones confessionals, is not going to happen unless something major changes. Even then most people have said they want to target kate over Jacob) or at f3 if he loses the last immunity.

But I did write earlier how I could still see a path for Spencer to the end, considering Anthony is already contemplating working with Spencer if he wins immunity (and the fact that Lindsay would likely go if this happens). Which would be awesome to see especially since they're my pickems. But there's still the problem of Eric, I think hed only vote against Jacob/Kate if he knew the majority was and there was no way to dissuade them

Slayer @ 6/12/2014 6:39

Sherlip @ 6/12/2014 1:37 Knowing what this challenge is gonna be, I'm not writing Spencer off yet. Granted I don't think he'll win the season, but I feel like Jacob is becoming too obvious. After all, I don't think anyone foresaw Elise winning at this point last season. I saw myself winning <3 But yeah I see your point. He's definitely the front runner though as at the moment, and a lot of things would have to happen for the other side to take power. If Jacob loses itll have to be now (which, judging by everyones confessionals, is not going to happen unless something major changes. Even then most people have said they want to target kate over Jacob) or at f3 if he loses the last immunity. But I did write earlier how I could still see a path for Spencer to the end, considering Anthony is already contemplating working with Spencer if he wins immunity (and the fact that Lindsay would likely go if this happens). Which would be awesome to see especially since they're my pickems. But there's still the problem of Eric, I think hed only vote against Jacob/Kate if he knew the majority was and there was no way to dissuade them

Wow, we've disagreed on one thing this season...

Spoiler	+
...and it's not this. 100% agreed, AS USUAL.

PS, I feel like I thought Elise was going to win last season around this point? But really, that doesn't matter.

Winners can be in-your-face-obvious in ORG's. There's no editing, what's obvious to us isn't always like that to the people in the game.

Steve @ 6/12/2014 12:47

PS, I feel like I thought Elise was going to win last season around this point? But really, that doesn't matter. Winners can be in-your-face-obvious in ORG's. There's no editing, what's obvious to us isn't always like that to the people in the game.

I agree with this 100% <3
Big surprise :P

But on the flip side, it also means someone like Kate, who has written few confessionals and has been super emotional all season, could take the win despite not having a "winners" edit in our eyes. I doubt she'd win against J-Money himself but she could still get votes.

Or going back to last season, Craig was a huge force in the game and a big contender to win despite not writing many confessionals.

Im still trying to learn to untrain myself for looking for the edit lmao. Why Donovans boot seemed like a shock at the time because he was a VL favorite, when really it shouldnt have been that surprising.