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Post #1: 2nd Aug 2014 4:03:04 PM 
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Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooo finalists.

Obviously I wish I was sitting where you are, but congratulations on making it here, this is arguably the hardest game out there, it takes something, even if it's a little bit of something, to get here. I'm not bitter....not really, I never expected myself to get as far as I did, and I honestly didn't expect you guys to be the ones I'd be questioning, so props to all 3 of you. I just want to get a better perspective of how your games went and get a little bit of asskissing for us here on the jury. So here it goes.


Right now, I'm voting for Yul. He was the only person I was aligned with throughout the duration of the game, he's the only one of you that I truly know played the game,he's the only one of you that really even tried to have a relationship with me, and as far as I know, at this moment, he's the ONLY person sitting here that truly deserves the title of Sausage Island 8 champion.

Why? Because even as I played alongside him, and knew he was playing the game how he was, I never once considered him a big threat. I honestly (no offense) wanted to bring him to the end for more than just him being my closest ally, but because I knew nobody saw him as a threat or big player. He played an amazing UTR game, while still "having his hand in the cookie jar" for a lot of the big moments. His opening statement is the only one I can actually completely buy at this point, and while I still have questions for you Yul, this is your vote to lose.

Opening statements aren't too important to me, but as I just said Yul's is the only one I'm believing right now.

Jonathan, I'm sorry, but for me, being on your social A game isn't just talking to your alliance members everyday, it constitutes talking to EVERYBODY and getting a little bit of info from all those people, and I know from personal experience that was not true for you. You actually tried a bit more than Charlie to talk to me, so I guess kudos for that, but we still had no real relationship at the end of the day. I understand not talking to me if I'm not apart of your plans, but don't go talking about Social A game after the fact, I didn't have a really good one and if I was sitting infront of a jury, I'd admit. Not saying that you didn't have a decent or good one, but there's a ton of people sitting on this jury that played way better social games than you IMO, sorry.

The same conditions make me want to fault you on your so called "incredibly aware game". On one hand, it's not the best point to make, I'll probably go down as one of the least aware players in Sausage history, and even I had some sort of who was with who, and through my boot I knew who was gonna go at every single tribal, paranoia would just drive me to think otherwise at times. On the other hand, just because you had people giving you the dish on the rumor mill doesn't mean you always knew the truth. The one thing that rings true in your speech to me is that there are some that view you as the goat here, I'm one of them. But, as I said earlier, I'm not the greatest when it comes to awareness, so maybe I have it all wrong. Prove it to me! Good luck.


Charlie! Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. Guys, Charlie bit me. Charlie bit me and it reaalllly hurts. Obviously he didn't bite me literally, but he bit my game, and he bit me as a player. Now when it comes to my game, I don't know if all the claims were 100% true or not, so I'll just stick to player-to-player things. You never even tried to talk to me! I guess that was your strategy, but as far I know you still went and talked to people and I just got left ignored. If I'm not apart of your plans, OK, but great players have great social games, and try to get know almost all of the people they play with.

Now your jury speech, for me, seems to list off the reasons I shouldn't vote for you rather than the reasons I should. You got into a majority alliance and made the merge easy, I can't fault you for that too much because that can be said for all but three of us here. You got an idol, but misplayed it, though again I can't fault you for that too much because we tried to keep who was going at that tribal underwraps and it could've been anybody. Then, you got into some more majority alliances and that never made you a target after Eddie left. I guess that it's less reasons to not vote for you, but just sort of fluff. I need to know more.

Alright, enough rambling, question time!

Yul:
1. What was your best move in this game?
2. I saw you as my closest ally n this game, but I'll say it for a 3rd time, my awareness skills were less than perfect. How did you view me as an ally and player in this game?

Jonathan:
1. What was a move that you initiated in this game? I feel like you were locked with J'Tia for most of the game, and then once she left, you were with Charlie, I don't know what moves you made that you spearheaded on your own.

2. You say you were on your social A game and played an incredibly aware game, where you knew who was in trouble and who wanted who out. So to show it, sort of, who were the 3 people I wanted out of the game the most post-merge?

Charlie:
1. Why did you choose the "people have to come to me" strategy?
2. From what I hear, you tried to make moves in this game and a most of them just didn't formulate. You didn't really talk about it in your speech, which surprised me. If these claims are true, can you go a little in-depth on those moves and why they did or didn't work?

For Errybody (Aka "The Ass-kissing Ones")
1. Who on the jury do you feel played the best game?
2. There's a DVD cover. 6 people get on it from this season, who are those 6, where are they on the cover, and why are they there?
3. Who do you feel is/will be considered the star of the season by the PWs?

That's all I've got to say here. If you chose not read this and just skip to the questions, well then, go fuck Yoosef. But I hope you guys give all of us the time to hear what we have to say, good and bad. Good luck and good night!

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Post #2: 2nd Aug 2014 5:40:11 PM 
I appreciate the support Bill, you were a pleasure to work with and a chill dude. I could tell we were both pretty laid back when we started talking and that's what made me click with you. We both were straight up with each other and that's something I respect in someone.

1. What was your best move in this game?

My best move was definitely the move to take out Ken. He was the biggest jury threat left in the game, and if he was sitting here I'm pretty sure he'd win in almost a clean sweep. It was funny actually, I came to charlie and asked him straight up who he was voting and he told me that he was voting me. Then ken/kelly tried to get me to vote Charlie. Both Charlie/jon had no idea that Charlie was a target and that I was the swing vote.

2. I saw you as my closest ally n this game, but I'll say it for a 3rd time, my awareness skills were less than perfect. How did you view me as an ally and player in this game?

You were a great ally, no matter what shit people said about you I knew that you had my back. I think you played well premerge, it definitely caught up to you at the merge. Some people didn't trust you because of rumors that were spread. I feel like if you kept your head down we could have stayed in the middle for a good amount of time.

1. Who on the jury do you feel played the best game?

Honestly, Ken. The guy had a firm control over 3/4 of the game. I don't think it would have been remotely possible to take him out safely until the point where he was voted out. I said it in my confessional as well. This guy deserves an all star spot 100%

2. There's a DVD cover. 6 people get on it from this season, who are those 6, where are they on the cover, and why are they there?

Ken, Yul, Betsy, Charlie/Jonathan(I think all the F3 should be on the cover tbh), and Bill

Ken - for the reasons mentioned above
Yul/Charlie/Jonathan- I believe all of the F3 deserves to be on the cover, I think that's the format they usually do.
Betsy - Underrated social player who could swing a lot of people in her court. I feel like if the cards were dealt differently she could definitely have went to the end.
Bill - You were a good combination of character/player. Every show needs a villain and I feel like you could get the edit well, just from the majority rules answers.

3. Who do you feel is/will be considered the star of the season by the PWs?

I'm sure the PWs loved Ken, I feel that he probably did a good job of keeping his confessionals entertaining. I hope that the PWs had respect for the game I played. I was very analytical in describing my thought process and my strategy in my confessionals. I just tried to be myself this game, I'm not really good at playing a character/role. I might not be the best combination of character + player but I think that I played a stronger game than both jonathan/charlie.

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Post #3: 2nd Aug 2014 10:34:24 PM 
I will admit, Bill, that you were one I did not speak with as much. I said I was on my A game, but I never said I played a flawless social game. I think being on my social A game, to me, means that I was socially aware. I knew who I needed to be more social with to win them over. Furthermore, I honestly felt like I knew where you stood on a lot of things through Eddie, be it directly or indirectly. However, that is no excuse for us not being able to talk as much, and I do feel that I reached out, but I apologize if you feel that I did not reach out enough. Additionally, I think pointing out that I played an aware game is rather important. You yourself admitted to not being very aware and, thus, you sit on the jury and not in the Final Three. Being aware came from establishing trust and establishing relationships, which are crucial to being successful in this game, so I think being aware is an important aspect and an important trait to point out.

Anyways, that's not what you asked me, so I will get to answering what you would actually like to know from me.

1. What was a move that you initiated in this game?

As far as a move goes, I will take credit for Betsy’s downfall. After the results of the Majority Rules challenge, Betsy had been voted as the person most people would trust with their lives. To me, the person who is deemed most trustworthy is more dangerous than the person who is deemed in control. So, I took it upon myself to make the most trustworthy person in this game the least trustworthy. That round involved a lot of me planting the idea in Betsy’s head to make a big move against our alliance of 6 (Ken, Kelly, JR, Betsy, myself, and J’Tia), without ever having any intention of myself voting against our alliance. Truthfully, this all stemmed from the fear that Betsy and JR would team up with Ken and Kelly and take J’Tia and I out at final 6. I had to make sure that Betsy was seen as untrustworthy by Ken and Kelly, so I planted the idea of booting a huge threat in her brain (ie. Someone who was voted most strategic or in control). At that point, Betsy divulges with me that Ken and Kelly are thinking of voting J’Tia. Of course, I instantly reported this to Ken and Kelly, only further splitting the trust between them and Betsy. The only way that their trust would be truly severed was if I agreed to vote with you, Yul, Betsy, and JR in order for the 4 of you to actually vote for J’Tia, while I kept my vote for you, Bill, making my alliance trust me more since I “saved J’Tia” and making Betsy and JR public enemies number one and two. In the end, this secured Charlie a spot in our Final Five alliance, and come Final Five, Charlie, J’Tia, and I would have had the upper hand if need be. I never had any intentions of voting out J’Tia, because it just didn’t make sense for me to lose the trust of my 4 closest allies only to align myself with folks that I didn’t trust as much. When all was said and done, Betsy and JR were next in line to go, and J’Tia and Ken were still around as “bigger threats” for the other side of the tribe to target, and I was sitting safely in the middle. If I had voted with Betsy that round, I am confident that I would not be sitting here in the Final Three.

In response to me being tied to J'Tia, she was, indeed, my closest ally in the game, but I feel like she in no way carried me to where I was. There were several occasions pre-merge, in fact, where her name came up and I defended her. It was a mutual relationship, not a parasitic one. I had to do my part just as much as J'Tia did to form relationships that would help us both come merge. On top of that, when J'Tia left, I stuck around and I still played a strong game. Charlie didn't dictate any move that I made.

2. Who were the 3 people I wanted out of the game the most post-merge?

I would say J'Tia and Charlie were two of your primary targets coming into the merge. Based off of what happened, I would say your third target was Hayden.

1. Who on the jury do you feel played the best game?

I honestly have to say Ken as well. Whether he was in control or not, he made people believe he was in control, and that's what this game is about. Perception. He played a stellar social game and everyone loved him. He was great at the game and what the game entailed, and had he made it to the finals I feel he would have swept the vote.

2. There's a DVD cover. 6 people get on it from this season, who are those 6, where are they on the cover, and why are they there?

J'Tia, Ken, Betsy, Yul, Jonathan, and Charlie.

J'Tia: J'Tia was the character of this season. She brought the drama and she brought the humor. Essentially, she brought the ratings for a big chunk of this game.
Ken: A strong social player, and someone who was seemingly in control for a large part of the game.
Betsy: Betsy stirred the pot and kind of became villain-esque towards the end of her time in the merge. Leading up to, and after her plot to vote J'Tia, she would have gotten a lot of screen time and she would be a crucial character in the show.
Yul: Played pretty UTR, but made it to the finals, and I think all finalists typically deserve a spot because they made it to the end, which is obviously the goal of the game.
Charlie: I thought, besides making it to the finals, Charlie was another funny character in the game, and often brought the lulz. And he's just an all around good guy.
Jonathan: I made F3, so I think I deserve to be on the cover, just saying.

Guest appearance by Kelly because she was the sweetheart of the season and the sweetheart should always be featured too.

3. Who do you feel is/will be considered the star of the season by the PWs?

I would like to think that many of us stood out to the PWs and provided them with plenty of entertainment. I think the star(s) of the season will be Ken and J'Tia, to the PWs. J'Tia was a character and played a strong social game, and Ken played a strong social game as well, and had toe whole Kendra Bigstaff thing going for him. Like Yul, I hope the PWs appreciated my game as well. It was hard to play any sort of true character since, like, who is Jonathan Libby anyways? But I hope I helped assist with an entertaining season.

Thanks for your questions, Bill, and best of luck with your decision.

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Post #4: 2nd Aug 2014 10:50:43 PM 
"Furthermore, I honestly felt like I knew where you stood on a lot of things through Eddie, be it directly or indirectly."

How? That doesn't make sense to me.
 
   
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Post #5: 2nd Aug 2014 11:26:58 PM 
Eddie Fox @ 2/8/2014 21:50
"Furthermore, I honestly felt like I knew where you stood on a lot of things through Eddie, be it directly or indirectly."

How? That doesn't make sense to me.


By that I meant I had a solid hunch that the two of you were tight and knew that you wouldn't compromise that alliance through the moves you made. That's why I said indirectly. I apologize for not being more explicit.
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Post #6: 3rd Aug 2014 12:32:53 PM 
Hey there again, Mr. Comedian. Thank you for the congratulations!

When it comes to us you're not wrong about me biting you game-wise. I can't explain it, literally, but from the very first challenge to decide captains, I had a completely irrational fear of you. Completely. Irrational. No explanation. So on my end, that is the most likely reason we didn't talk. That's not to say I didn't give it a go one time, because I did, but I was also the reason it fizzled and died. I would apologize, but I feel like if our positions were switched, I could be saying the same about our barely there social interaction too, and wonder why you didn't come to me either except when you felt worried because our two sides refused to share any vote info with the other.

However, you'll never hear me say I played the best social game, because I know I didn't. There are people on the jury who are leaps and bounds better than me. I'm a fairly introverted person by nature, and being social can be exhausting to me, but yet I still play these games because I love them.

Anyway, you also want more info on my game, so I'll go to your questions.

1. Why did you choose the "people have to come to me" strategy?

I chose this strategy for exactly two reasons. The first reason is because of Angie, and what I had heard from other people about her making alliances with everyone she met, whether or not that is actually true, I took it to heart. That was more a secondary reason which cemented my primary one. The primary reason I chose this route is because when people are coming to me, it is much less likely they are going to go around to other people saying that I have an alliance with them, and by keeping it to myself, I hopefully gain trust along the way.

I feel like I only implemented this strategy when it came to game talk though. I was more than willing to talk about myself and my hobbies and ambitions, while also trying to keep my alias under wraps, etc, and vice versa with being willing to listen to other people's stories... unless I'm irrationally scared of a person. ;)


2. From what I hear, you tried to make moves in this game and a most of them just didn't formulate. You didn't really talk about it in your speech, which surprised me. If these claims are true, can you go a little in-depth on those moves and why they did or didn't work?

I don't feel like half-formulated, failed moves would have been something worth putting in my opening speech because it would have just added another element to what seemed to have turned you off voting for me in the first place, but I think that's what you meant when you said you were surprised I didn't. I want to say there were only three, but I don't mind being corrected.

1. I wanted to play the idol on another player. I failed on that move because I used it on myself, and I didn't even need too. It was a huge bummer. One thing I did succeed on that round though was deciding to vote Yul out and having the rest of Dadès follow in my footsteps. So that was a plus. However, a huge factor going into that decision was that I had spilled the beans to Kelly about both the original plan to vote J.R. and the idea I heard you had about voting for Betsy (purely to blow up your game), except that I was tipsy at the time, got the info backwards and felt my alliance needed to vote for someone no one would expect we would vote for.

2. Yul can attest that I came to him the round you left and half-formulated the idea of the three of us working together. It never even hit the floor because of the other failed move I tried that same round and because J'Tia was in danger.

3. I wanted to vote out Kenneth the round you left. I was adamant about it, but I could not get the support for it. Little did I know it was because of a web of connections and alliances that Betsy later told me about concerning her, J'Tia, Jean-Robert, Jonathan, Kelly and Ken.


1. Who on the jury do you feel played the best game?

I want to say Ken played one of the best games up until the final five when his amazing game caught up with him and Yul wasn't on board because of the finale threat he posed. However, I also believe Kelly played a pretty amazing game well, although she was targeted at tribal council often, there were never enough votes to take her out until the final four, and if Yul hadn't won immunity, she would be sitting in the final three right now.

2. There's a DVD cover. 6 people get on it from this season, who are those 6, where are they on the cover, and why are they there?

I want to put so many people on this cover for different reasons because there were some pretty stand-out players who left pre-jury who CBS might have felt deserved to be on there.

I'm going to go with Jonathan, Yul, J'Tia, Betsy, Ken and myself. I'm going to set this up like the cover to Survivor: Pearl Islands.

J'Tia would be placed in the bottom middle slot because of the way she chose to play. She impacted the game in so many ways and people should be made aware from the cover that she is someone to watch, similar (but not too similar) to Lil.

Ken would be placed top middle slot because I believe based on his game-play he would have a strong winner edit that went terribly wrong, similar to Rupert.

Betsy would be placed in the top right slot. This slot also belongs to Johnny Fairplay. Betsy had some pretty game changing moments that both helped her and hurt her and I feel like her impact was similar to Fairplay in that it was a serious impact, but probably not the most well liked.

Yul and Jonathan would be in the bottom row, on either side of J'Tia. They are both great game-players who were overshadowed by bigger personalities.

Finally, I would put myself in the top left, Sandra Diez-Twine position, because not only do I want to win this game, I often quoted her famous "as long as it ain't me" line.

3. Who do you feel is/will be considered the star of the season by the PWs?

I honestly haven't got the slightest idea, but I'm going to answer this with the answer to my DVD Cover and say Ken.





Thank you, Billiam for the questions and statements. If you feel like you need more, give me a shout and I'll try and fill in gaps as best I can.
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Post #7: 3rd Aug 2014 12:55:02 PM 
I love you but plz never compare me to Rupert again. Unless its HvV Rupert. Then we're cool.
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Post #8: 3rd Aug 2014 1:04:15 PM 
Thank you for the answers guys!
 
   
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