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An Open Letter To The Final Two; also, a few questions
 
Ciera Eastin
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Post #1: 27th Feb 2014 12:58 AM 
Let me start off by saying that as of right now, my vote is for John. I told myself and I told Jamie that if he was ever in the finals, he wouldn't be getting my vote because of how he treated me. This may seem self-centered and a bit dramatic but it's my vote and I will do with it as I please. However, my mind can always be changed. If Jamie can prove he isn't a soulless gamebot and John can't prove he has game at all, Jamie will get my vote. It all depends on how you answer the questions at this tribal, honestly.

That being said, in no way do I think that I deserve to be in the finals over the two of you. My original plan to stay blended obviously fell through and due to circumstances that were partly out of my control I became the poster child for a threat in this game. I realize that my overeager personality annoyed some of you. I understand that there were numerous misunderstandings that turned people off from me, and I understand that I very much so deserved to be voted off (though tbh not necessarily WHEN I did but I'll get to that later.)

Despite me being seen as "bitter" and "irrational" by my fellow jurors, I honestly have very few problems with the way each of you played the game. Jamie, you had every single person believing that they were aligned with you at one point in the game, and you used most of the cast as a human shield to power your way through the game. I don't think you ever received a vote against you, right? That is an incredibly impressive feat, dude. And John, your game was not nearly as flashy, but it was still there. Though you never actually did anything about it, you put yourself in a position where your vote was needed by both sides. You kept your closeness with Jamie a secret and rode all the way to the end with him, nobody ever expecting a thing. The question is, does your "coattail riding" strategy really warrant you winning the game over Jamie?

As I had just stated, you guys didn't necessarily suck at the game. However, personally, I'm afraid that one if not both of you is an actual sociopath. I have no problem with lying, backstabbing, the like; if you own up to it and don't do it unnecessarily. Telling someone they're safe out of fear of scramble/an idol is perfectly justified. Trying to convince someone they're safe seemingly just to fuck with them is not. Jamie, you've said it a million times: this is a game. A game where the only prize is bragging rights and having your name on a list that will go down in Sausage history. So when I am at the point where my real life insecurities are out for everyone to see in this game, and someone preys on that and uses it to get my hopes up when there is legitimately no reason to do it other than being an asshole and bragging about how badly you played me in your confessional, then yes my feelings WILL get hurt. I'm not sure if you just didn't realize it or were completely clueless to how you treated people, but both of you actually hurt me in this game, and it felt personal.

Like Greg said, if you want to be the villain, be the fucking villain! Blindside everyone! Make diabolical moves! Make your best friends cry! But if you're going to do that, own up to it. If you want to blindside me for fun, I expect you to rub it in my face instead of giving me a big chat about how loyal and honest you were in the game and that you never made a deal with me and all of this stuff. I think you tried to be a good person in this game, but you just don't know how. Saying you're a good, nice guy won't cut it. The thing that will make you a good person, Jamie, are your actions. Stand up for someone that you care about. Stand up for yourself. Don't be disingenuous, don't be a bully, don't make promises you don't intend to keep. If you find it hard to do any of this, work on it later and own up to being the traitorous snake you know you are inside.

I'll admit, I have lied in this game as well. Most of my lives weren't related to the game, however. I guess I was playing semi-alias; if someone knew who I was I wouldn't deny it, and yeah I did tell a few people that I had played in this series before. To the new people though, I didn't want anything to set me apart and make me different. No, I'm not actually an art student living in Pittsburgh. I'm a fifteen year old high school sophomore from West Virginia who ask PG for advice when I was asked what my favorite drink was because I don't actually drink. Lies like that are, in my mind, okay; they weren't meant to be malicious and didn't harm anybody. Despite my low placing as Brenda in Sausage 3, I was a bit worried that having small experience in this series would make me a target. When you sign your name, sign with a smiley face. Also, off topic, a reason that I played so hard in the beginning was because I was desperate to be noticed. I wanted to make big moves and be a big, likeable character because I wanted to impress everyone in the prediction writer lounge that has underestimated and demeaned me throughout my years of playing. I wanted attention, and that was my downfall.

Anyway, back to you two. I'm a firm believer that anyone who makes it to the finals deserves to win, but I'm not so sure about that philosophy now. We have someone live John, who is widely believed to have done very little in this game. And then we have someone like Jamie, who somehow convinced everyone that he was going to the finals with them despite the fact that it was increasingly obvious he wasn't. This sounds great on paper, but was all of this REALLY Jamie's doing? Your game was sloppy, Jamie, and it shocks me to see you here because I didn't find your game to be nearly as impressive as anyone else. I'm not trying to be hypocritical here, it was obvious I was never winning this game, but here we have you. After Richard and I was voting out, you had to have become the biggest target in the game. You were a PERFECT final 7 boot. Everyone should have seen that if you weren't taken out there wouldn't be any opportunity. Yet, here you are now. Anyone who tried to make a move against you was either afraid to or realized that you needed to go a round too late. I adore these people personally but it was so frustrating to watch all of this happen. I'm not sure if you played a game deserving of a win, or if you lucked out by falling into a position where nobody wanted to vote you out because you were a "nice guy".

My questions today might be a bit different from what you're used to. John, my questions for you will all fall under the category of your strategic game. I've picked out several attributes that I believe a savvy gamer has and formatted a question for you to fit that trait. You already have my vote, so answer the questions honestly and to the best of your ability and try to prove to me and to everyone else that you know what you're doing here. Jamie, I will go about this in a similar fashion, except yours will be all about your personality and how you interacted with the various people in this game. This is your last chance to win my vote and prove that you were either a loyal hero or an asshole villain. Good luck to the both of you! I'll start with John.

JOHN

1. Adaptability - You've been on a total of four different tribes in this game. How did your strategy differ as you were swapped from tribe to tribe? What exactly was your main plan at merge?

2. Awareness - Greg tasked you with an awareness question already, so I'll be looking at that for this trait but I do have a small question for you here. Did you find out information in this game on your own or did you rely completely on Jamie to let you know what was going on?

3. Preparation - While adaptability is important, so is having a plan. When you were cast, before you even spoke with anyone, what was your strategy going into the game? Did you follow up on that strategy?

4. Fearlessness - Was there ever a time where you wanted to make a move but decided against it out of fear?

5. Control - where there any people in this game that you felt would vote with you unconditionally?

JAMIE

1. Compassion - Name one personal fact you know about each member of the jury. Were you really paying attention to their stories or were you pretending to be interested to further yourself in the game?

2. Integrity - How many alliances did you have, exactly? Can you even count the amount of promises you made to people? Do you regret making so many of them? Why was your deal with John more important than your deal with everyone else?

3. Honesty - why did you feel the need to constantly lie? Were your lies completely strategic? Are there any lies you regret?

4. Humility - When you knew the votes were locked for me and you also knew that the idol was played incorrectly, you taunted Richard and I. At that moment, did you know you were going to make it to the end of the game? Did you honestly view anyone else in the game as an obstacle in your way of winning?

5. Charity - Since you made it to the end, you should know what exactly everyone did that ruined their shot at winning. Critique each juror's gameplay and give them criticism on how they can improve in a future game.

BOTH

6. If you were invited back for Heroes vs. Villains, which tribe would you be on?
7. Why should your opponent win the game?
8. Seeing the way you played the game now, who do you wish you had chosen to play as in the beginning? Basically, which Survivor contestant do you think played a similar game to your own?
9. Any final comments?
10. Please sign your name below to show that you have read and understood everything.

Good luck!
 
   
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Post #2: 1st Mar 2014 5:34 AM 
1. Old Saptano, I started out really close to PG. I also felt close to Nick after he replaced Sarge and Chet, so the 4 of us started an alliance leaving out Angie, Gillian and Laura. So I knew I had about 3 boots in that tribe before I had to start scrambling but I hadn’t made up my mind on what to do. I figured after being absent I would probably make the least popular of the alliance but I still had time if that came

On New Gwad.. that was all fucked. I was close with Danni, we close close before the game. So she picked me and asked me to pick Rich. She said they were close so she popped up a blast chat of me, her and Rich. Well shit went down with PG joining, she was close to Dan, I preferred Yau out of everyone. Eventually I lost and gave up, Danni had to go. Then I suppose Rich felt uncomfortable in this tribe so he left. We got Greg, so it was me, Yau and 3 former Lugatas. I was supposed to go, I can only speculate the deals Yau made with Leann and Dan prior to this. So when we failed once again, I stayed up until about 4 am talking to Leann. I painted myself as a loner, I used everything I had against Yau. Like why Rich moved to your tribe if he hated you like he claimed. I said Nick was my closest ally and he was voted out. I said I’d vote how Leann wanted. So I escaped elimination that time. The next vote, if we had one, I might’ve been fucked but my plan was to sell myself as more valuable than Greg as an outsider vs an old Lugata, bringing down their threat level and still using me.

On Lo Ke (sry can’t do the fancy accent mark you made) I already built up my relationship with Dan, and that’s where Chet and I met up again, so it was a convenient relationship but I liked Chet enough at that point and it made sense. I got a lot closer to Dave as well at this point. So we had the numbers with us, and obviously failed at it with your idol. I really enjoyed Dan but it worked out with him being an old lugata leaving the game. So then it was 3-3 with Laura and Rich on your side. Again, at this point I felt it was better to come out non-threatening to you and Rich, I got closer to Laura and if it came down to it hopefully I wouldn’t be the target if there was to be a tie vote.

Now we go to Bato-Bato. I went into this tribe having deals with Leann from New Gwad, Dave from Lo Ke, Jamie from the beginning and Chet from Saptano. And Laura I suppose if that counts. I wasn’t close with any of the old Gwad, so the best thing I could do is fan the flames of the heat you and rich got. Painting you and Rich with the villainous brush, dangerous schemers got the attention off me and gave me some time to get closer to the people I had made deals with prior. I had already lied to Rich enough he probably wouldn’t want to work with me again. So I knew which baskets to place my eggs.

Originally at merge the vote was supposed to be Rich. I think we got all the people needed to vote Richard that night, then really late that night I studied the screen shot Jamie got that was apparent proof richard didn’t have the idol. I noticed a flaw in it and assumed it was photoshopped. I knew my name was being brought up, you PMed me as well as Rich with the alliance or voting block because you said Jamie made some final 6 without me that wanted to vote me out. Anyways, regardless if it was faked or not I didn’t want to vote someone with an idol and be booted then. So we PMed people and IMed them like mad to change the vote off Rich and onto you, since you played yours already.

There’s obviously more that went on but I’m explaining my plan come merge. Once you and Rich were the big targets I worked more on my other relationships. I got tight with some of Jamie’s closest allies. I know if I told Jamie that if any one of them targeted him then he’d put his full force to get them out so this was a great way to break up the old Lugata and bring me and Chet in. I knew Dave was itching to move in on Jamie, I waited until what I thought was the right time and we prepared to vote off Dave in the live tribal council. Before that, I brought up the idea of a final 4 with Jamie, myself, Todd and Chet. First I approached Todd about it, using the information about Dave wanting to go against him and Jamie. I talked to Chet next and he himself suggested it. I knew with that group that I had a good chance to get to the end of the game.

Unfortunately it didn’t work out with that final 4, Todd was talking about breaking up Chet and me and Jamie was afraid to go in a final 3 endurance with Chet. I still figured Leann and Kelly would be against each other in the final 4.

2. Jamie was a great tool for information in this game. I’m aware he was in everyone’s ear and it was very helpful. On the other end of the spectrum, before merge I made an effort to his allies I suspected might turn on him. Since my tribe was pretty well decimated and Laura had no plans on sticking with us, I still knew it was likely old lugata with Chet and myself would have the numbers come merge. I just needed the information to get them to split up. Based on Jamie’s performance, turning on Greg with the slightest betrayal, I knew I could get him to turn on some of his old tribe and I could have a good shot at getting to the end. While keeping my relationship with Jamie secret as well as keeping close to Chet I navigated the post merge and be where I am now.

3. Yes I believe my strategy was to make the right ties with the right people to ensure a majority at the merge and then improve on those relationships to ensure myself to get to the end. I know it sounds simple but I think I played my hand well and was able to do it. I always believe in telling as much truth as possible as lying will end up with people not trusting you, just like Rich would never trust me however the I felt those lies necessary because of the idol. I never want to be a dick to people and just be myself and I really can’t be anyone else.

4. Well, I think most of the moves I made worked out in the end sans not making enough visible moves for the jury to see or respect my game. I found my path to the end of the game, I tried to treat the jurors with respect as they left and I made it to the end. I do believe if I had made huge earth shattering moves it would’ve made my journey a lot tougher and I might not be answering your question now so I think I made the right ones.

5. You know it’s tough to say unconditionally in a game of survivor everyone is going to look for their best interest in the game. But throughout the game I think Chet and Jamie both had interest in voting with me, as well as Leann and quite possibly Dave until he went. I didn’t need people to vote with me unconditionally the entire time really, just unconditionally not vote me out which is what Jamie did. As far as control, Chet and I both could’ve gone either way come merge, which is where I wanted to be. I didn’t roll with old Gwad and you because I had spent the past few rounds building up my relationships with old Lugata and saw my path to the end in sight.

6. Okay I had originally said I was a villain in the pre game interview. Only because I am willing to vote out people and keep emotions to the side to make it further. However, as this game has played out we’ve had some great villains. You and Rich may be the obvious ones, Jamie as well. It’s tough to define a hero or a villain in a survivor game as it is a villainous game so maybe it’s a stretch, but I’d default myself as a hero in this game. I don’t think I was malicious to anyone, a dick or an all out douche bag, except for maybe saying I’m a hero, but yeah. Here I am.

7. Jamie has certainly played the social game and was in everyone’s ear. It’s no secret he’s in a great position to win this game. He’s had the time and dedication to talk to every person in this game and relate to them on a personal level. Not to mention he’s pretty kick ass in challenges.

8. Ciera, I’m so bad at remembering past seasons of survivor but I think I played a game similar to Sophie. (See, I can only go back to SP) But she knew Coach was an OTT player, people followed him but she did what it took to get to the end of the game and gained the respect of her fellow players. She’s an underrated winner in history but I can respect how she played the hand she was given with the returning players and that season. So I guess it’s too early now but I hope through explaining my game to the jury they can see I was playing the whole time, played my hand well and wasn’t a dick to people :) But since Sophie is already taken, I’m happy with John Cody. He seems like a nice guy who is good looking and possibly that would disarm some people to get to know me.

9. I know my chances right now with the perception of the jury, it's an uphill battle. So was this game. If I lose then I'll be happy to make it this far but I won't do so without a fight, why give up now? I was with Jamie for a long time in this game but I was on my own premerge and played an independent game overcoming a lot of obstacles. then I used him to my benefit post merge. He may prefer to be in the center of attention but I wasn't going to make a target out of myself like him. I see my way to the end and try to backstab as few people as possible.

10. John :)
 
   
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Post #3: 2nd Mar 2014 5:36 PM 
1. Leann: Lives in Chicago and is an engineer.
Kelly: In college and has one sister.
Chet: Has a girlfriend and loves cooking.
Todd: Has his own theater where he puts on improv and musicals, an outlet for his creativity away from the stress of work.
Dreamz: He lives in Ohio and works in sales as a manager.
Dave: He lives in Pennsylvania and is heavily interested in the film industry.
Richard: Is currently going to school to get his masters in social work.
Ciera: A high school student who enjoys theater and flappy bird.
Greg: Drives a truck that has been having problems lately and has invested a lot of money into his vehicle.

Yes, the entire time I was really paying attention to what people said to me and told me because like I said when it is all over all you have are the friendships you’ve built in the game. That’s the best part of the game getting to know people from all around the world who share the same common interest as you. Like I stated in Kelly’s thread - there were some conversations I was not knowledgeable enough about but I had the willingness to learn so I would not derail conversation topics my way every single time because no one wants to speak with someone who is all about themselves 24/7.

2. I had a lot of alliances in this game, with it being one world style and tribes shuffling every so often I knew each and every deal would help progress me as far as I could in the game. I’ll include deals in on this as well.

Dan/Todd/Myself
Dan/Leann/Dave/Myself
Dreamz/Todd/Myself
Chet/Todd/Myself
Ciera/Dreamz/Richard/Kelly/Todd/Myself
John/Todd/Chet/Myself
John
Dreamz
Kelly
Leann
Todd
Dave

So yeah I had a bunch of deals/alliances but the deal was that I connected so close to a lot more people than I initially thought on a personal level that it helped them incentivize me as being their best option of moving forward or at least as a personal friend during the game. I don’t regret making them because each deal was made a different time of the game, right after I saved Dreamz over PG, Dreamz though about getting the six person alliance with the Gwads and Todd together and with merge coming near of course I was going to hop on that train because it gave me protection from literally everyone at that point. I was able to assess the best options for myself moving forward, see where everyone stood and gather information from everyone that I could get a pulse on. The deal with John was the VERY first one I made, believe it or not. John was someone I connected with because I could tell he was a lot more docile than my personality allows me to be which made for a great team, opposites attract.


3. A lot of lying that goes down in Survivor is harmless lying in my opinion, none of the lies I told would affect you in your personal life so I don’t see the lies I told as malicious or to inflict harm upon anyone. Lies are told in the game of Survivor to distract your opponent most of the time from what your true goal is at the end of the day, lying if effective throws your opponents completely off the trail and gives you more of a cushion/leverage to attack. Also, with 3 idols being played this season I think it’s no secret that was able on everyone’s minds for a while. My lies WERE strategic. The only lie I regret which I’ll get more into for number four is the most impulsive lie I’ve ever told which was the round were you were voted off Ciera.


4. This is just what I was about to get into during number three. This is definitely the most impulsive lie I made in the game, the only reason I can really tell you why I did it was because I was extremely nervous that Richard played the idol correctly and that I was losing Todd. Todd wasn’t someone I wanted to leave that soon at the merge and our friendship kept growing more and more at that point and you guys targeting Todd just made the whole situation more of a headache for myself so I figured if I told Richard that we voted for him that he would just come out and tell us what he really did with the idol - played it on himself or Ciera. I guess just being impatient that round is something that took over me but that’s the only time I did something like that, I learn from something and take it with me forever. After the round you left Ciera, I felt like I had a great chance of getting to the end or I wouldn’t have voted that specific way if I didn’t think my game would progress closer to the finals. Richard was someone who played these games for 11 years and if he wanted to turn someone a different direction in the game with logic he more than likely could overtime which is why the whole everyone vs. Richard war was something I could not look over and let him slip by. Dave was still an obstacle in my way, he was charming/charismatic and wanted to make moves to get himself to the end which is why he had to go soon after. Dreamz, Kelly and Todd were people in my way at the end because of becoming jury threats. Everyone liked Dreamz and he was a great talker. Kelly didn’t really piss anyone off personally and played a great UTR game while Todd fought for people to stay which made them happy with him even though they ended up leaving. Lastly, Chet was a huge challenge threat in my way and someone who never promised me something important like final 2 when the finals are approaching so he posed a big threat for me too. In Survivor, everyone is an obstacle.

5. OK well lets get this started.

Greg - Greg definitely had the strategic mindset to make something happen but he made shady decisions like sharing information with Ciera without the full intentions of making a move to flip it seemed like. He also wasn’t able to talk to a lot of people on a personal level which definitely hurt his position to have people go along with the moves. I think the small chat annoys Greg but that is what I would advise is to sit through that to get people to trust you initially and then later on you’ll be able to build a more meaningful friendship.

Ciera - You spread yourself way too thin socially in these games, people can sense when you’re messaging them to actually chat or if you’re just messaging them because you have to. Take the time and effort next game to learn about these people or if you don’t want to learn about them then just stay away from them or at least don’t drop hints that make your social game transparent.

Richard - Richard gets hot-headed when someone doesn’t vote the way he does which sometimes can prevent someone from ever wanting to vote that in that direction. Richard isn’t stupid and has played these forever but my advice would be to remember everyone is playing for themselves at the end of the day.

Dave - Dave when wanting to make a big move put his trust in people who were super close with me, Kelly and John both told me about his plan to come after me so I would say his biggest error was feeling like these people were as genuine as flipping as he was. The only advice I would say is to feel people out more before you make a big move especially if you feel like the people you need to flip are associated with both parties.

Dreamz - Dreamz stuck with the information that Richard gave him as f11 that Todd was for sure going home so Dreamz went along with the plan which kind of outcasted him on Richard’s side from there on out. Although Dreamz did not have much to go on I think him not having an ear in on the other side of the people hurt his chances of keeping tabs on all of the plans and being able to go from there some of the times because people would try to leave him in the dark. Only advice would be to have some type of ear open somehow, someway in every sub-alliance that is going on to prevent yourself from voting in the minority.

Todd - Todd’s downfall was also his biggest strength, he went off on people who wronged him in the game which made people uneasy about him but also helped him out because they knew where he stood. I think him being so blunt and in your face, some people couldn’t handle that and just couldn’t trust him anymore because they weren’t used to someone being so honest about their feelings. I think the only advice I can give Todd is to hide your frustration toward a situation if it helps you in the game.

Chet - I think Chet’s biggest downfall in the game was not telling me verbally that he wanted a final 2. I could have flipped the vote anyway that round but Chet only said “we need to go to the end together” which is when we all thought it was a f3. We meaning John as well because we all felt we stood the best shot against each other, he never told me even when it was revealed that it would be a final 2 that he wanted HIM and ME in the final 2 together but he figured that out after the vote so only advice I would say is near the end make sure the person you want in the finals with you knows that.

Kelly - I think not being online as much as the others to built up a rapport with people that were seen as wildcards to build a close enough bond to actually have them consider flipping in the first place. The problem was that the people left in the end were a combination of people Kelly never put stock into earlier in the game compared to other people so the others only saw her as a jury threat and someone they weren’t sure if they could trust or not. All I would say is talk to the wildcards more often since they help, being busy with IRL you can’t really change though!

Leann - Her biggest downfall is going to be weird because it also would have helped her lock up a win if she reached the finals. Leann’s downfall in this game was not lying to people on the way out, being great at immunity challenges and being smart enough to rekindle relationships with people whenever she had to which made her a HUGE threat. Everyone that left thought Leann was literally amazing because she didn’t lie to them on the way out. It made her a huge jury threat and a favorite to take this game. The only thing I would tell Leann to change would to downplay the accusations that come her way and not to leave the cards out on the table.

6. If I was invited back for a Heroes vs. Villains game, I would definitely be cast on the villain tribe. Just because you’re a villain doesn’t mean you don’t form close personal bonds in the game but it represents that you’re willing to put your best foot forward to make damn sure that every move you make is the best for you, yourself. Villains in my opinion tend to be selfish players but have the ability to adapt to whatever given situation and to work with literally anyone for mutual benefit. Whether they hated the person a day earlier or not. Survivor is not a game that prides itself on honesty all the way through and people who are committed to being self-interested players thrive so online reality gamers being villains in games (even not in the malicious sense) is not that rare to see.

7. He played a cleaner game, he didn’t have to really backstab a lot of people along the way to get here. Even when Chet was leaving he would vote for the person who was playing the immunity idol so he didn’t have to make a friend mad or hurt their feelings. He wasn’t too bad at challenges either.

8. I’m awful at remembering the ins and outs of every Survivor season. I just am. I’ll go with something fresh in my mind though and pick Tyson. I think Tyson and myself both were social people willing to speak to anyone and everyone in the game whether it was just about personal stories or the game. We both also have a sense of humor but when it comes to playing the game we are extremely serious about getting to the end and presenting our case to the jury. The whole game people were calling out Tyson for being the biggest threat/snake whatever you want to call him with the same happening to me as people left every tribal council and yet we both made it to the end. Although I didn’t have an idol like Tyson, he didn’t ultimately need one either. He was able to separate his personal feelings with people apart from the game he signed up to win and he had someone in this game who played UTR next to him (Gervase) and they worked pretty well together from beginning to end which relates in my opinion, to my relationship with John.

9. I know my chances right now are 50/50 of winning this game and I hope that just because I had to look out for my best interests in hand just like everyone else did, people won’t be completely pissed off and just want to find anything and everything to nitpick me on. I put my everything into this game, the time and dedication I brought to it allowed me to play it to the best of my abilities and to take a valuable friendship from several of you as the end of the game approaches and I’m proud of that. Even people from the pre-jury have made it known that they would still love to stay in contact with me after the game so that right there makes me feel good that not everyone thinks I’m just some soulless gamebot which is fantastic! I’m proud of how I played the game, I made my own decisions and a lot of the moves like taking out Kathy, PG and Greg I was able to pull off myself without the my f2 partner being there. I also feel like I made less blunders in my game, even if John wants to say I was a huge target over him of course I was but he still received so many more votes that I did this entire game because I had a way of talking to people and in the end playing Survivor how I best thought I could.

10. Jamie :)

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Post #4: 2nd Mar 2014 5:48 PM 
Alright, thanks to the both of you. I think I received what I wanted to know and it's a lot to think about. Good luck!
 
   
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Post #5: 2nd Mar 2014 5:50 PM 
Actually I lied, one more question for Jamie - are you still going to deny the alliance you made with me earlier on to justify your actions at merge?
 
   
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Post #6: 2nd Mar 2014 5:55 PM 
Oops I forgot about that one, I knew I was forgetting something. I don't see why you feel like I would lie during the final tribal council, I've been nothing but honest. There was a deal that went into place that involved Kelly, Dave, Ciera and myself which stemmed from the fact that Dave and myself both liked Kelly with Kelly being connected with Ciera and since Ciera was said to be running a "cult" from early on in the game I felt like becoming an alliance member with those 4 would not hurt my game to allow Dave and myself to get closer to the Gwad tribe. My merge actions are still justified though, I did what I had to do to get to the end and call me delusional but I didn't feel like that alliance would have lasted until the four, many others in it didn't think so either which is why everyone inside of the alliance but you voted the same way at f11.

I hope that answers your question.
 
   
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Post #7: 2nd Mar 2014 6:00 PM 
No, the reason that I was pissed about you leaving it out of your question was because you denied it as I was being voted out. To me, it looked like you were painting me as some crazy bitch and the alliance between the four of us never existed and you never made a deal with me, etc. You betraying me isn't what pissed me off, I saw that coming. What left a bad taste in my mouth was the fact that you taunted me, tried denying anything bad you had done, and claim that I was making up our alliance. Let's not forget that both times YOU approached me for an alliance yet you had the nerve to throw the blame on me for betraying you. That's what upset me so much.
 
   
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Post #8: 2nd Mar 2014 6:05 PM 
Ciera Eastin @ 2/3/2014 16:00
No, the reason that I was pissed about you leaving it out of your question was because you denied it as I was being voted out. To me, it looked like you were painting me as some crazy bitch and the alliance between the four of us never existed and you never made a deal with me, etc. You betraying me isn't what pissed me off, I saw that coming. What left a bad taste in my mouth was the fact that you taunted me, tried denying anything bad you had done, and claim that I was making up our alliance. Let's not forget that both times YOU approached me for an alliance yet you had the nerve to throw the blame on me for betraying you. That's what upset me so much.

Ciera denying it when you brought it up as you were being voted out was to protect my own game. I knew you would use anything and everything in your final tribal council post if you had to, to make my game blow up in my face (where you posted about old lugata sticking together). If I were just to point blank say that again as you were leaving you would have probably copy and pasted it in the tribal council thread to paint me out to be someone to watch out for even more so. You posted part of our conversation when you left anyway so denying information that could hurt me in the game was something I had to do. I wasn't playing russian roulette in this game. When I approached you for the sixsome alliance that wasn't even my idea in the first place, Dreamz thought up that idea which I have told you a bunch of times. Just because I was the one who spoke to you about it to inform you doesn't make it my entire concept. But I just didn't feel like admitting to anything as you were leaving the game was a smart plan on my part so I denied which was the safest route for my game.

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