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Post #1: 5th Jul 2016 5:07:04 PM 
Howdy there, final three, and congratulations on making it to the end of this game! It was a Lóng and challenging experience, I’m sure, and you should be proud of the fact that you are sitting here in the final tribal council.

Going into this FTC, my vote is up in the air. Quite frankly, if you had asked me each round after my elimination to rank the remaining contestants in the order I’d want to vote for them to win, I would have ranked the three of you at the bottom of that list consistently. Watching more preferable winners fall one by one was really frustrating to watch, and I don’t particularly enjoy the fact that I have to write one of your names down. However, based on that, I will give you three kudos for effectively eliminating all of the threats to your potential victory. You’ve done what you had to do in order to ensure that you have a chance to win, and at the end of the day, that’s the name of the game.

One of the problems that I had in this game was connecting with people on a deep enough level. I never allowed myself to get involved in valuable strategic plans until it was a bit too late, and I’ve had discussions with other members of the jury regarding how surface-level my conversations were, and how I just didn’t connect with certain people. I do feel, however, that this effort to form a bond/friendship is absolutely a two-way street, and when I left, I felt like I had failed to get to ~know~ you three as people really. I play these games to enjoy the social aspects, form new relationships, and strengthen existing ones. With you three, I feel like I missed the opportunity to do so, which is honestly unfortunate.

Rachel – All of my conversations with you came across as extremely disingenuous. It was a chore to find common ground with you, and even if we did, it was derailed with a seeming lack of interest on your part and worsened by your hyperbolically saccharine pink text and incessant smiley faces. All in all, it just created this aura of fakeness about you, and I never could get past that wall. I was shocked that you won nicest in majority rules, but I guess this kindness could be interpreted as the person offering lollipops and kittens to children with more malicious intentions behind the doors of their white van. Regardless of this, I have heard positive things about the relationships that you built with other people, and I recognize the Michele Fitzgerald-esque end to your gameplay. You put yourself into a swing position when it counted, won some critical immunities, and weaved your way to the end. I just wish that you had done it while acting a little more genuine.

Neal – If someone told me that you would be sitting here in the early rounds of this game, I honestly would have laughed in their face. You were borderline påpãyä at times, and I remember debating about if I should try to go forward with Wes instead of you back in round three. Flash forward to the early rounds of the merge, you ended up with your back against the wall, but were able to hustle and change your fate. On paper, your game is probably the most interesting of the three, given the growth arc that you demonstrated. From quiet and under the radar ice cream man to idol-wielding underdog with an immunity streak in him. Unfortunately, this transformation did not rub members of the jury the right way, and I know that I personally came away with this strange image of an underdog character who was rather villainous and cocky, when he really did not deserve to be. So, jury management wise, you did not do so hot, but again, you clearly made the correct moves at the right time to get yourself to this point. I think that one of the most important moves that you made in this game, which you have not really addressed in this finale, was voting me out. At the time, I honestly thought that you and Liz had made a very foolish decision, as I was sincere about wanting to still work with you two despite voting for Kenny in the previous round. I thought that we were even, essentially, with you guys leaving me out of a vote, and then me doing the same two days later. I wanted to fold you into the alliance of five that had formed between me, Nick, Rita, Jenna, and Natalie, and who knows what would have happened once we got down to 7 or 8 with that group. That could have been a path that worked too, but regardless, you proved me wrong and made your own path to the finale. I didn’t expect it to work out for you, but it did, and so I think that voting for me was the turning point in your game.

Liz – I have thought about my statement to you for days and days. I have written things, edited them, deleted them, and ultimately find myself confused as to how I should address you. I really just don’t understand what you’re all about, and I am honestly disappointed that whatever momentum we started building pre-merge fell apart as the game proceeded. I remember gushing about you around the time of the first swap when we came up with that iconic children’s story, and I genuinely felt good about working with you long-term. After we merged, however, you barely spoke to me again, and I really did not know where we stood. I was left in the cold, only to hear from you again when you believed yourself to be a victim in this game, while other people fell instead, and you rode this trail of blood to the finale. You said in your opening statement that your decision to vote me out was one of your toughest moments in this game, but that was news to me! We barely spoke during that round, after weeks of limited communication, and yet I was STILL trying to help you in this game. Despite all of this, for whatever reason, you chose to vote me out. Your parchment was obvious to me, and that was the one that stung the most. Yes, clearly my game was “cancelled,” as was our alliance, but that seemed like a direct message to me that you were completely over ANY friendship with me, and effectively cancelled any chance that I should vote for you should you make the end. So I find myself experiencing mixed signals based on how you described my elimination in your opening statement. Having heard from many members of the jury about how you turned yourself into the victim for voting out your “friends,” I just find it all to be very disingenuous and meaningless. From what I gathered, you became the Dawn Meehan of this game, constantly appealing to others’ emotions and manipulating them into feeling bad for you, before stabbing them in the back while crying about how it hurt you to do so. I understand that this game is hard. It can make you feel like a terrible person at times, but I would rather see someone remain confident in their decisions, yet mutually empathetic with those you are sending out the door, not solely for yourself.

All of this being said, I have a few questions for the three of you. All of the statements above kind of coalesce into one major theme – that I either never got to know you as well as I could have, or I came close but things fell apart. Ultimately, I feel as if I do not know you three on the level that it takes for me to want to give you my vote to win, and I really need to see this more internal nature to really aide my decision. Thus, my first question is as follows: What would it mean for you personally to win this game? It has been such an intense ride, and I know that all three of you have passionate reasons and drive to be victorious at the end. So please let me see why this game is important to you, in however many words you feel necessary to express that.

My next question is just for Neal and Liz. During the round that I was eliminated, I was pretty blindsided by the two of you. I thought that I had made it clear that I wanted to continue working with you, but I obviously underestimated my position in the game and the bond that I thought I had with you two. Can you please walk me through the sequence of events that round, from Kenny’s elimination through mine? I have pieced together a good narrative in my head from the jurors who arrived after me, but I really would like to hear from you two on this topic, especially because I consider this round and your decision to be one of the main reasons that you are in the final tribal council. What was your thought process? How did people approach you about the vote as the round progressed? Did you ever debate about keeping me? Was it more of a long-term or short-term decision? Et cetera.

Third, I have a question for all three of you. I found one of the pre-merge idols pretty early in this game, around the second round. I held onto that thing for quite a while, ultimately getting voted out with it in my pocket. I had no major vibe to play it during that round, and it sucks that I was barely on AIM due to real life commitments that day to maybe figure out what was going on. I actually typed my vote that round for Hunter super last minute, as I was driving home from an event. I pulled over onto a side-road to cast it, and for a split second, I debated about playing my idol as a YOLO sort of thing, but not anticipating any real danger, I decided not to. Alas, I should have! My question for you, then, is a hypothetical scenario that I’m very interested to hear the answer to: say that I play my idol, negating the votes against me and sending Hunter home, what do you guys do as your next move? I know it’s tricky because there were so many moving parts, especially that crazy live round that followed, but think back to that time in the game, and tell me what your Plan B would be if I stay and Hunter leaves due to my idol.

FINALLY, last but not least, I have a somewhat larger task for you to evaluate your perception of the others’ gameplay. You guys actually get to pick between one of the following two options for this, and please don’t try to do both, because it will only waste your time and won’t really matter to me. Your choice is between:

A. Compare each of the jurors, yourself, and your fellow finalists to an animal on the Chinese Zodiac. I know that a few of my jurors have asked comparison questions, so you might be getting sick of them, but I’ve had this one in mind for some time and thought that it was very relevant thematically. Each of the Chinese Zodiac animals can be assigned different qualities and traits based on how they approach life, and I think that it would be important to acknowledge those characteristics in the gameplay of the final 14. Take a look online for more information regarding these animals and their interpretation in Chinese culture. Also, be sure to check out the Chinese Zodiac legend, which documents how each animal approached the race. Make sure that the entire top 14 is included, and also make sure that all 12 zodiac animals are included!

B. If you aren’t up for another comparison question, which would be sad but understandable, you could choose to do evaluations of the gameplay of yourself, your fellow finalists, and the jurors. Assign each of the final 14 either a number or letter grade, and then explain how they can better themselves in various areas of Survivor – physical, social, strategic, etc. What advice can you offer each person to turn their gameplay into a WIN next time?

OKAY, I think that’s everything that I have for you guys, and goodness was it a mouthful. I think I typed over 2,000 words for this, which is a bit ridiculous but oh well! I look forward to reading your answers to my questions, as well as those from my fellow jury members. Good luck, congrats again, and I hope that all three of you continue to fight your hardest to earn every single vote you can get!
 
   
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Post #2: 7th Jul 2016 8:45:36 PM 
Heyo Jeremiah!


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All of this being said, I have a few questions for the three of you. All of the statements above kind of coalesce into one major theme – that I either never got to know you as well as I could have, or I came close but things fell apart. Ultimately, I feel as if I do not know you three on the level that it takes for me to want to give you my vote to win, and I really need to see this more internal nature to really aide my decision. Thus, my first question is as follows: What would it mean for you personally to win this game? It has been such an intense ride, and I know that all three of you have passionate reasons and drive to be victorious at the end. So please let me see why this game is important to you, in however many words you feel necessary to express that.


I’ve been thinking about this game non-stop from start to finish. I was freaking out night one because i had work and I thought it was going to fuck my game over immediately. In my mind, winning this game validates everything I’ve given up for it. It validates the nights I’ve spent wide awake thinking about my position and who I can trust, what my next move should be, and how I should dig myself out of whatever hole I buried myself in that round. It validates the 10 pounds I gained from Mcdonalds because I was too busy talking to people or competing in a challenge rather than cooking dinner. It validates the countless dates I’ve given up...okay who am i kidding we all know that wasn’t an actual thing….

I’ve given this game everything I have. I never thought I would win that endurance but I was so determined to prove to myself and to all of you that I am more than serious about this game, that I am willing to do whatever it takes to get to the end and win. Regardless of the mistakes I’ve made, I’m proud of the game I’ve played. I’ve fought so hard to be here and I hope my dedication and gameplay is enough to earn your respect and ultimately your vote.


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My next question is just for Neal and Liz. During the round that I was eliminated, I was pretty blindsided by the two of you. I thought that I had made it clear that I wanted to continue working with you, but I obviously underestimated my position in the game and the bond that I thought I had with you two. Can you please walk me through the sequence of events that round, from Kenny’s elimination through mine? I have pieced together a good narrative in my head from the jurors who arrived after me, but I really would like to hear from you two on this topic, especially because I consider this round and your decision to be one of the main reasons that you are in the final tribal council. What was your thought process? How did people approach you about the vote as the round progressed? Did you ever debate about keeping me? Was it more of a long-term or short-term decision? Et cetera.


After Kenny left, I knew that I wasn’t in the best spot. Fortunately for me though, I had a lot of people come to me later that night and the next day, reassuring me that I was going to be fine and that they said they wanted to work with me. I knew that ultimately this meant that there was going to be a big play this round and i would hopefully find myself in the middle. I wanted to make sure that I didn’t waste this opportunity and that I went with the side that I felt like would get me the furthest. I was approached by Woo the next day about going with the Mushu 4. I felt like strategically this was the better option for me because I thought that keeping all 4 Mushu in would keep the focus off of me, and I had a chance of hiding behind players that were bigger threats than me (Hunter, Hope, Woo). I thought that I could roll with them for a few rounds and then make a play against them at 9 if I really wasn’t sure where I was with them. I did think about siding with you and your numbers but I wasn’t really approached with a solid plan until the final hours of the vote. It made that side seem less concrete to me and made me feel out of the loop. I didn’t feel like i had the same security and ultimately I felt like going with you/Rita/Jenna/Natalie/Nick would have been too dangerous for me Lóng term. I knew Nick was going after me and Jenna was never going to trust me 100% after I just wrote her name down. I felt like I would have had less control and leverage with that side so I thought it would be best to stick with Mushu for at least a couple rounds.

As far as the vote was concerned, your name came up because you were someone I was cautious of for a Lóng time. I remember Liz pointed out right before merge that you were the only *or one of the few* people that had been on a tribe with everyone left in the game. I thought you were someone that was playing a very quiet game, silently getting to know everyone before you ultimately made your move. I thought that no one was ever really going to target you. We’d talked a lot on Anaira but it was usually only normal conversation, I think we only really talked game a couple of times. I thought you were a threat and much like Nick, I felt like if you weren’t taken out early, you were someone that was going to be very difficult to vote out late game. What made you even more dangerous though was that I thought you had more bonds than Nick did. I wanted to take you out while there was so much attention on you after the Kenny vote. In my mind you were a Shórt term ally but ultimately a Lóng term threat so I wanted to take the shot while I had it.


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Third, I have a question for all three of you. I found one of the pre-merge idols pretty early in this game, around the second round. I held onto that thing for quite a while, ultimately getting voted out with it in my pocket. I had no major vibe to play it during that round, and it sucks that I was barely on AIM due to real life commitments that day to maybe figure out what was going on. I actually typed my vote that round for Hunter super last minute, as I was driving home from an event. I pulled over onto a side-road to cast it, and for a split second, I debated about playing my idol as a YOLO sort of thing, but not anticipating any real danger, I decided not to. Alas, I should have! My question for you, then, is a hypothetical scenario that I’m very interested to hear the answer to: say that I play my idol, negating the votes against me and sending Hunter home, what do you guys do as your next move? I know it’s tricky because there were so many moving parts, especially that crazy live round that followed, but think back to that time in the game, and tell me what your Plan B would be if I stay and Hunter leaves due to my idol.



Oyyy, see that might have been the hole that buried me. I think it would have severely damaged my game. I would have lost your trust, Nick would still want me out, Rita and Jenna would have been even MORE sketched out. Assuming Rachel still wins immunity during the double, I think I would have had two options.

Seeing how Hope/Woo/Liz/Rachel felt. I could have flirted with the idea of rocks. The only reason I would have gone that far is because I truly felt that your side was never going to trust me and to give you 5 majority would be handing you my life in the game. I would take a chance and see if I got lucky.

If rocks didn’t seem like an option, my best bet is to try and make a gameplan with some sort of combination of you, Rita, Jenna, Natalie. I would have recognized that I had no pull during the double and just go with the target that wasn’t me and then hope I could pick up the pieces the next round.

Ultimately, I think I would have been screwed. It would have messed up my game timing and left me incredibly vulnerable. Funny how one simple decision can completely alter the entire game. I hope this answered your question, I know my response is all over the place.

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A. Compare each of the jurors, yourself, and your fellow finalists to an animal on the Chinese Zodiac. I know that a few of my jurors have asked comparison questions, so you might be getting sick of them, but I’ve had this one in mind for some time and thought that it was very relevant thematically. Each of the Chinese Zodiac animals can be assigned different qualities and traits based on how they approach life, and I think that it would be important to acknowledge those characteristics in the gameplay of the final 14. Take a look online for more information regarding these animals and their interpretation in Chinese culture. Also, be sure to check out the Chinese Zodiac legend, which documents how each animal approached the race. Make sure that the entire top 14 is included, and also make sure that all 12 zodiac animals are included!



ALRIGHT GUYS! Before this game all I really knew about the Chinese Zodiac was what I learned from Jackie Chan's Adventures. Since I'm pretty sure it's not the same thing, this was quite the learning experience for me! I hope you enjoy the comparisons!!!


Alina
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Jaison
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Kenny
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Jeremiah
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Jenna
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Hunter
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Hope
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Natalie
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Nick
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Rita
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Woo
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Liz
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Rachel
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Neal
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Thank you for your questions, Jeremiah.
 
   
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Post #3: 8th Jul 2016 1:19:52 AM 
Thank you Neal! Best of luck.
 
   
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Post #4: 8th Jul 2016 11:14:18 AM 
Howdy Jeremiah!

I'm sorry if I sounded I was being disingenuous in our conversations, because I really wasn't , in fact I'm quite surprised you thought I was being ~fake~ to you. In general I'm just a bubbly person who just loves to laugh and use emoicons. I'm fully aware that me and you weren't as close as say me and Hunter were. I apologized if I gave you that wrong impression, and I do understand with what you're saying by how you wished you would have gotten to know us on a deeper level, I really thought perhaps it was due to us not being on the same page or within the same alliance, but regardless, I still enjoyed our conversations and hopefully after this we can just chat without my pink font obviously! so yeah call me.. maybe!


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What would it mean for you personally to win this game? It has been such an intense ride, and I know that all three of you have passionate reasons and drive to be victorious at the end. So please let me see why this game is important to you, in however many words you feel necessary to express that.


That's a great a question, honestly it would mean a lot to me. This game has been an intense roller coaster and even now, I'm still nervous about what's going to happen tonight, and I'm relieved this journey is about to come to an end but at the same time, I want to walk out of this game proud of myself and whether I win this or.. lose, I'm very happy of how far I've made it! The obstacles that I've overcome and the new ~person~ that I've become as well. In this game I was this random girl who just wanted to make a mark for herself, but realized she was among giants (threats) and every round I've struggled and wondered when am I going to find my inner voice in this game? There were rounds, where I felt I was wasting my time ,and others where I was just in a state of despair, but I kept persevering and here I am! Whatever happens tonight, I can't complain, I'll be happy.

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Third, I have a question for all three of you. I found one of the pre-merge idols pretty early in this game, around the second round. I held onto that thing for quite a while, ultimately getting voted out with it in my pocket. I had no major vibe to play it during that round, and it sucks that I was barely on AIM due to real life commitments that day to maybe figure out what was going on. I actually typed my vote that round for Hunter super last minute, as I was driving home from an event. I pulled over onto a side-road to cast it, and for a split second, I debated about playing my idol as a YOLO sort of thing, but not anticipating any real danger, I decided not to. Alas, I should have! My question for you, then, is a hypothetical scenario that I’m very interested to hear the answer to: say that I play my idol, negating the votes against me and sending Hunter home, what do you guys do as your next move? I know it’s tricky because there were so many moving parts, especially that crazy live round that followed, but think back to that time in the game, and tell me what your Plan B would be if I stay and Hunter leaves due to my idol.


That's interesting! because I do remember voicing that concern, multiple times in that alliance of 6 group chat (Neal/Liz/Woo/Hope/Hunter &myself). I kept telling Hunter the possibility of you having an idol because I was suspecting that if you had one, you would have played it because I think people were getting suspicious that you were with Rita, Nat, Jenna and Nick. But to answer your question, I have no idea what would have happened, it's hard to predict, but numbers would have been even now 5-5. I wouldn't mind going for rocks only if I had that immunity again, but since you're there chances are you would probably win it too lol
I think Rita would have probably convinced me to flip to her side, but in order for me to do that, I would have to know how legit the other 4 (Liz,woo,neal,Hope) would be willing to go to rocks
but yes if I had that immunity again, I would have tried going for rocks absolutely, because I have nothing to lose and you 5 would have gained a majority next round and that could be scary.


TASK PART B

I've graded everyone on 20 Why? I don't know really lol


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Thank you for the questions,Jeremiah!

 
   
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Post #5: 8th Jul 2016 7:44:02 PM 
Thank you for your answers Rachel! Good luck.
 
   
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