I feel as though some have been pretty hasty in discussion. I do understand that we need to get a move on, but there is a lot of time.

I just spent the time reading through the 17 page challenge you have put forth and I was alright with the way discussion was leading up until recent.

I feel as though there is a core group of people that seem to be deciding this when I thought the original route was to make this as group-oriented as possible.

I'm here now and ready to make this choice even with a heavy heart.

I would like to defend myself though because I do have skills that are useful.

As a fisherman, my people have learned patience is a virtue. Ay, and that it is. I can be useful for group dynamic. But I am also an extremely skilled fisherman and that does not come easy. My skill set in that area are unmatched. I have quite the knack for discernment and I am capable of analyzing and studying areas; able to easily read my surroundings. Makes hunting and fishing quite easy when you are as aware as I.

Izza @ 26/4/2015 21:27

Aippaq @ 26/4/2015 21:26 I feel as though some have been pretty hasty in discussion. I do understand that we need to get a move on, but there is a lot of time. I just spent the time reading through the 17 page challenge you have put forth and I was alright with the way discussion was leading up until recent. I feel as though there is a core group of people that seem to be deciding this when I thought the original route was to make this as group-oriented as possible. I'm here now and ready to make this choice even with a heavy heart. Do you disagree with people coming forward with their opinions on the matter?

Not at all. But it seems people have a mindset and a decision nearly cemented in mind. Group think is not a good thing. Who truly knows what we need and who is valuable. It's not just about where one comes from or who has talked. Words are simply words. The ability to see people's intentions and to try and see the bigger picture is key here.

RAMSES @ 26/4/2015 21:29

Aippaq @ 27/4/2015 2:26 I feel as though some have been pretty hasty in discussion. I do understand that we need to get a move on, but there is a lot of time. I just spent the time reading through the 17 page challenge you have put forth and I was alright with the way discussion was leading up until recent. I feel as though there is a core group of people that seem to be deciding this when I thought the original route was to make this as group-oriented as possible. I'm here now and ready to make this choice even with a heavy heart. The decision for who is to be left behind and who is to lead the ones that aren't is pretty much our only pressing matter. It is true we have an extended period in which to make this decision, but in the end we all make our own decisions. So the only way to properly spend this time is talking it out each other. No one is being told they cannot speak up.

I think I see what you're saying. I guess the discussion is good so long as it remains healthy. All that matters to me.

Takeshi Haruki @ 26/4/2015 21:42

Aippaq @ 26/4/2015 19:28 I would like to defend myself though because I do have skills that are useful. As a fisherman, my people have learned patience is a virtue. Ay, and that it is. I can be useful for group dynamic. But I am also an extremely skilled fisherman and that does not come easy. My skill set in that area are unmatched. I have quite the knack for discernment and I am capable of analyzing and studying areas; able to easily read my surroundings. Makes hunting and fishing quite easy when you are as aware as I. Having a good read on surroundings is very useful in a fight. Your skills will indeed be useful. Takeshi is curious if you have any fighting experience.

Not much. Pretty peaceful where I'm from. But God only knows that I am skilled with a knife. Gutting fish can come in handy at any given time. I'm sure there are more things to gut than just fish out there.

Ay, I think there needs to be a healthy mix between likability as people who can work well together will progress together. There also needs to be a mix of leaders and followers. Too many of one or the other could be bad news. Lastly, activity is naturally important. We want people who can be beneficial to the cause, whatever that may be. I think it's important to look at people's motives, but like it was said before by multiple people: people will say whatever it takes to stick around. I value people who act and prove. But, there isn't quite opportunity for that yet, though I'm gathering ideas of who may be noble and who may not be. There are obvious team players on this ship...there are also the more selfish kind.

Sorry if I missed anything in the flavour, and I will surely read again, but how do we know 100% that these people will actually die. Any other theories or possibilities?

I guess to bring my point home, even if this was to weed out relatively inactive people, 9 people is still a lot. That's a heavy blow.

Felicity Green @ 26/4/2015 23:00

...the fact that their options are either to burn in this ship or asphyxiate?

Like I said, I probably missed a lot in reading. I was more focused on reading 17 pages than to read all of the flavour and then read the 17 pages. I figured I should catch the crowd while it was around.

Still, I suppose the smart thing to do is approach it as it is written to us. If we wind up keeping all of our members, then we will just welcome them in and hopefully move onward.

I know I brought it up, just exploring all options.

We must act accordingly, but holding out hope that we will all somehow make it out alive. I've lost too much in the past...I'd hate for this exploration to come to such a similar fate.

We must act accordingly, but holding out hope that we will all somehow make it out alive. I've lost too much in the past...I'd hate for this exploration to come to such a similar fate.

Morwena @ 27/4/2015 1:42

Matilda @ 27/4/2015 8:33 Where are we again? Kansas.

Sounds delightful right about now.

Bloody hell, you guys sure can talk and I love it.

So there are a few things I've noticed while reading throughout the day: we tend to converse and move on about certain things that we agree aren't worth the time, then when someone new shows up, we go right back to those same conversations. We are running in circles and killing ourselves trying to crack this code.

I for one feel like trying to choose leaders and campaign for certain people is less important because all we are really choosing here is who we trust to hold these supplies. Like it has been said time and time again, leaders will rise as we move along and as we move as a group, it will only be a title. Obviously we want trustworthy people to be holding the items, but when it comes down to it, the people here have come to an idea in their mind of who they find trustworthy and I feel like no one will be putting poor choices at the top of their lists regardless if we have decided who everyone writes as number one and two or not. I don't think picking a particular leader will have as great of an impact on the mission because, ultimately, we will all still have to work together to finish this whole thing. Things like this may happen again and we will need everyone to come together to complete the mission, designated leader or not.

The more important matter to me is who will be staying behind. I feel as though people are using other's characters as a means of deciding this and, although that can show who we might be dealing with in the future and how we can work together, ultimately the most important thing is not moving forward with people who will take away and hold us back.

Just because someone shows up for a few minutes and posts a few times when they could have put all of their posts in one does not exempt them from any sort of ill fate in my eyes. I will say, we don't have much to go on. We haven't seen people being able to prove their worth simply because we haven't even left the ship yet...which is why this timing is so terrible for us. If we had been accomplishing things, it would be much easier to see who has been helpful and who hasn't. But alas, we are at a crossroads. I feel as though too many people are posting for the sake of posting and not actually helping. But, again, what are we to do when we're stuck in a situation like this?

I think it's been very clear that a group of people do not have as fervent of wills for this mission and for that, I think it's smartest to leave them behind. Anyone who has not contributed a fair amount or anything at all by now should show us they will likely be doing the same in the future and we cannot fail this mission. It means too much to me and, it would appear it means much to many of you.

I do struggle...

Aippaq walks over to look out into the deep black emptiness of space

The thought of failing this mission before it has even begun sends chills down my spine. This decision could and likely will determine our end fate and we must set ourselves up for success. Some of you are looking for people. Some are just looking for yourselves out here. But I think everyone will make the right choice because...well, because when you put that list of names in, you're looking out for the team and yourselves as well. If I've learned anything about people in my time it is that they are inherently selfish. So, I expect everyone to put down who they truly think would keep the group, them included, alive and well the longest.

I trust you guys. I feel a great decision will be made and, regardless of the outcome, we will find our best way to move forward and we will just need to continue to work together in order to succeed. We need each other...no matter who is left behind, work for each other.

I suppose the main point I'm trying to get across is that I think there are many helpful people here and any one of us can and will be beneficial to getting towards our end goal so long as we stick together.

I'd much rather stay unified than be torn asunder. Whoever we have moving forward, we will make it work. We just have to make our own personal decisions, see how the cards fall and just let it be. We can make do with whatever we have and I have faith that this crew will see to that...I do.