WIKEY

I have to say how impressed I was with not only the idea for this game and the very cool roles, but also with the game flavor. I really loved the way he made almost every day opening into a little Sherlock/Watson mystery. And the end flavor was so good and imaginative. Very sad that a lot of the best roles weren't ever used! That just means you have to host again!

Thanks for letting me host with you, Wikey! I had a great time!

This is from Buffy btw. :P


MAFIA TEAM

Whilst we are going to be talking about everybody individually in this list, this has to be said. As a team, the Mafia sucked. They were really, really bad. Some nights we was worried they might not put in their actions! There was barely any teamwork or coordination, and as a result, things fell apart quickly for them. To top it off, once things did start to go wrong, most of them took on a defeatist attitude and pretty much resigned themselves to defeat.

It was very disappointing to see a scum team with such cool roles fuck up so badly. So yeah, collectively, you all sucked!


brian -TOWN Watcher - Lynched Day 1

HOF: Brian didn't really last long enough in the game but he did try to drop a hint about his result on Curtis, which no one picked up on.
HOL: Low activity got him lynched but it was Day 1 so this is a bit picky.


Nofo - TOWN Lover - Killed Night 1

HOF: Nothing really comes to mind as he was only around for Day 1 with not too many posts.
HOL: Assuming Lamps was SK and not even considering he could've been saved by a doctor, which was the case. He basically focused on Lamps or people defending Lamps and nothing else.


Timmah - TOWN Voyeur - Killed Night 1

HOF: Wasn't really around enough Day 1 to make any kind of impact.
HOL: Added to the silly notion to "save Gmaj" Day 1. He didn't lynch Brian but seemed to support saving inactive Gmaj.


Gmaj7 - MAFIA Goon / WIFOM - Lynched Day 2

HOF: Putting in an action Day 2 to use WIFOM on Angi. Too bad it didn't happen, but at least his team finally recognized that he needed to try to use it.
HOL: Was not around Day 1 and missed out on being able to use WIFOM Night 1. If you don't intend to play "on weekends" you shouldn't sign up for a game which obviously does go on throughout weekdays AND weekends. Day 2, although he had finally read his role and posted in the discussion thread, he was still fairly quiet. His claim made no sense and his responses were very obviously scummy. Very disappointing waste of this role.


Redster - TOWN Vanilla - Killed Night 2

HOF: It's a little unfair to judge Redster as he didn't even sign himself up for this game and didn't know he was in it for a few days. We didn't even realize this until the last minute.
HOL: If we were going to criticize it would be for inactivity once he did find out he was in the game, but again, he didn't choose to sign up.


Badger - MAFIA Doctor / Hallucinogenic - Killed Day 3

HOF: He was one of the only Mafia members trying to get discussion going and make decisions during the short time he was alive.
HOL: Suggesting the Mafia team wait on using their special kill abilities. They should've started using them from the beginning. As it happened, some ended up never being used, including his own.


Canuck - TOWN Odd-Night Vigilante - Lynched Day 3

HOF: Didn't just join a leading train - used his own reads when deciding who to lynch.
HOL: Unfortunately, they were bad reads. Tried to kill Vic which, thankfully for town, was bussed to Nofo. Claimed a little late when he was getting lynched but it was really the fault of town that they went ahead with it, anyway. Still, instead of claiming and running off, he should have done it a little earlier and then stuck around to discuss.


Dadd - TOWN Vanilla - Killed Night 3

HOF: He was an active town member and didn't try to derail conversation with silly arguments that some others did. He seemed pretty pro-town - if you didn't look at his voting history. :P
HOL: Reads weren't the best.


Christian - THIRD PARTY Blackmailer - Lynched Day 4

HOF: Had very good reads very early on. He had a list of townies to choose from as recruits which was mostly accurate.
HOL: Was too tentative and didn't act on his instincts when he should have. It's understandable he would not try to recruit Night 0 but waiting on Night 1 and not doing anything cost him. If he would have gone through with his plan to recruit Curtis that night, he would have ended up with Schrauben. That would have been great as he would have also had access to Lamps's info. He also probably wouldn't have tried to recruit Curtis again the next night, which was what caused him to be bussed to Badger and attacked. It is acknowledged that Lamps would have seen him visit Schrauben, but they could've come up with a reason for this ahead of time since Schrauben was privvy to all of Lamps' info. Also his strategy of "laying low" got him noticed by Lamps almost immediately. One of the biggest disappointments was the fact he never tried to use the Blackmailer role. On his last day, he wasn't really around until the last few minutes and never tried to claim or vote to help save himself. This was a great role and it was very sad to see it just go to waste and not be used at all.


Angi - TOWN Roleblocker - Killed Night 4

HOF: Angi was very pro-town this game from the beginning. She was one of Christian's correct early town reads. Despite doing it for the wrong reasons, blocking Christian did stop him from recruiting Eben and helped lead to his lynch.
HOL: Her targets for the most part were not great. Even targeting Christian was questionable since he was thought to be town cop by many. Attempting to block Curtis the night she died was puzzling as he was pretty pro-town. Also, claiming when she did. There was no evidence that her blocking of Primate meant he was scum. Plus, after blocking Primate twice, and thinking she needed to claim in order to give out this information, she didn't even really push for Primate's lynch in the end.


FREE CANDY - TOWN Vanilla - Killed Night 4

HOF: Nothing comes to mind.
HOL: Inactive. Telling Vic to shut up or he would lynch him! That just goes against the whole spirit of the game. It actually seemed like he was blatantly trolling on purpose with his very few posts.


Patrick - TOWN Vanilla - Lynched Day 5

HOF: On one occasion, he drew Ahoda's block away from other possible town targets since they thought he might be town cop or vig based on his accusations of Vic. Okay, that's a stretch! :P
HOL: Trolling Vic unnecessarily just on a hunch. It's one thing to say you think someone might be scum and give your reasons, but quite another to blatantly profess that person IS scum and hint that you know this for sure. This caused a distraction which almost got Vic lynched, caused him to out his role, and took attention off the obvious target that day - Gmaj. It also led to Patrick's eventual lynch which was also a waste for town. All the attention focused on Patrick up until his lynch took away from productive discussion.


Jayadamo - MAFIA Bus Driver / Death Omen - Lynched Day 6

HOF: Was one of the more active scum in the beginning, although that isn't saying a lot. Nevertheless, he did show up a few times a day and at least tried to play for his team. He also blended in best in the beginning and was really the only mafia member who was not suspected for a while.
HOL: His targets for his Bus Driver role were random. He didn't start trying to use it in a way which would help his team until they found out what Curtis was doing. Also, the last day when he was caught. Instead of trying, basically gave up and confessed. A loophole opened up for him later and, though slim, it was a loophole he could have tried to slip through had he not already confessed to being scum.


im317 - MAFIA Traitor - Killed Night 6

HOF: He was hinting in his own way to the Mafia Team by not being on any of their lynch trains.
HOL: Wasn't obvious enough to get his team to recruit him. Played pretty obviously scummy thoughout.


Ahoda - MAFIA Roleblocker / Untraceable Kill - Lynched Day 7

HOF: He escaped certain lynching by posting in Chinese. The fact town even bought that he must be town since he was trolling was mindboggling (especially when they lynched Patrick for basically trolling) - but they did!
HOL: Posting in Chinese. The idea was just to troll since he was caught, and he accidentally saved himself for one day. Mostly inactive throughout the game, which was very disappointing. The last day he told Ari to just use his Terrorist role to blow himself up and he'd get lynched. Just wanted to end it and put in absolutely no effort to try to win for his team when the chips were down. A waste of a very cool role, using it on Curtis when he was most likely just going to bus it away from himself. Overall just had a losing attitude the whole game which was very lame.


Curtis - TOWN Bus Driver - Killed Night 7

HOF: One of the best town members by far! His activity level was great from the start and he eventually became defacto town leader. He didn't lay off scum when others wanted to accept silly ideas. His pressing of Gmaj when he claimed, for instance. Some were ready to buy this for some weird reason but Curtis's questioning of him made it pretty obvious he was lying. He also used his role very effectively. He avoided being recruited by Christian. He got scum to kill one of their own. He saved town member Chris by bussing Ahoda's block on Herm back to Ari. This also allowed Herm's kill on im317 to go through. His bussing of Ahoda, combined with the knowledge of Jay's role, led to town finally figuring out Ahoda was scum and not just trolling, useless town. He was basically messing up the plans of scum and third party up until his death.
HOL: While his reads were good, he laid back at times when he could've helped. Herm's lynch comes to mind. Instead of opposing it, he didn't really comment and Herm ended up having to claim. He also agreed to lynch im317 with Vic but never followed through. Not buying Canuck's claim or just giving him the benefit of the doubt was silly. Claiming "Odd Night Vig" was pretty specific and could've easily been countered if it weren't true.


JC - TOWN Vanilla - Lynched Day 8

HOF: Fairly good activity/participation.
HOL: Focusing on Vic as the recruit near the end instead of trying to find Mafia. It didn't look too townish. And JC's voting patterns and suspects pretty much all game made him look scummy. Saving Gmaj.


Eben Etzebeth - TOWN Nurse - Killed Night 8

HOF: Pretty active townie. A newbie to FE Mafia with good participation and some good insight at times. Standing up against the Herm lynch comes to mind. It made no sense to all of a sudden lynch Herm, who had been a very active contributor, instead of the other choices of the day.
HOL: Not great reads at times. Some decisions unfortunately made him look scummy. For example, starting Brian's lynch train Day 1 when Gmaj had not even shown up. Also, allowing Jay to hammer himself and end discussion was one of them and thinking Vic's claim/role was suspicious.


Schrauben - TOWN Doctor / Mason - Killed Day 9

HOF: Great town player and great teammate with Lamps! He successfully protected town players 3 times. Claimed Tracker and threw scum off Lamp's trail. This ended up being a great move as Ari attacked him instead of Lamps, thinking he was taking out the Tracker. His doctoring skills threw scum off a lot and messed up plans.
HOL: Many nights he just protected Lamps and himself - it worked in their favor twice but we were kind of afraid this would happen by putting them on a Mason team together so it's not surprising. Day 2 never even questioned Gmaj's terrible claim. Instead he continued to fight with Vic, telling him he was lynching town (Gmaj).


Ari - MAFIA Terrorist / Hostage Taker - Killed Day 9

HOF: His endgame plan was impressive. Although he was the last Mafia member in the game, he never gave up. Instead of basically "suiciding" like Jay and Ahoda, he came up with a plan to attack himself, correctly guessing that Curtis would bus him with someone townish. It turned out to be Curtis, himself and he ended up taking Curtis out. If Curtis had survived and could've vouched that Ari was bussed, who knows how far he could've gotten as it would have proved that Ari was attacked that night. And if Lamps would've kept his action to track Ari, it would've been bussed to Curtis and that would've proven Ari was attacked as well. Good plan, just had bad luck in the choice Curtis and Lamps made that night.
HOL: Not too active from the start. Even though he placed early votes on scum, he was correctly pegged as scum by many.


Primate - TOWN One-Time Bulletproof - Survived

HOF: Pretty active player, was really trying to scumhunt.
HOL: Looked pretty scummy throughout due to incorrect reads and voting pattern.


Chris - TOWN One-Time Police Protection - Survived

HOF: This is his first time to actually "play" a mafia game. Though some people continued to talk about him "trolling," it was no worse than some others and he was doing it to be funny for the most part (whether people thought it was or not). He wasn't the best at scum-hunting but he tried and he had a few good common sense posts here and there.
HOL: Not that great at reads but he's basically a newb at this.


Rose/dr - TOWN Commuter - Survived

HOF: Pretty solid play although not overly active. Didn't panic and use role too soon...or ever! Pretty good reads. She was always onto Ari. PMing her thoughts on the game! It's always great to know what players are thinking who don't have access to another board to post in!
HOL: Came off a bit scummy - but never got attacked by scum so this may not be a bad thing.


Vic - TOWN Multivoter - Survived

HOF: Great town player! Had some pretty good scum reads throughout, including im317 and Christian. Mafia couldn't figure out im317 was their Traitor but Vic knew he was scum - very early on. He was aggressive and active and one of the town leaders.
HOL: Might have gotten a little defensive at times but so did a lot of players. Could have pushed a little harder to get im317 lynched over Patrick when some people hinted they would do it - but time was running out and losing Patrick wasn't the worst thing that could happen to town! :P


Herm - TOWN Even Night Vigilante - Survived

HOF: Very good town player! Herm was spot on with his reads a lot of the time. Taking out Redster and Free Candy wasn't a bad idea when he wasn't sure who was scum. Getting those inactives out of the way can really help town whittle things down at the end. Plus, he was trying to stay out of Curtis's way and avoid killing him by accident when he knew Curtis had been bussing himself with scum. Even killing Eben wasn't really bad because he did come off scummy.
HOL: Didn't always have the confidence to press for his targets to be lynched - he needs to do this more!!!


Lamps - TOWN Tracker / Mason - Survived

HOF: Great town player! His partnership with Schrauben was great. They made a good team and, although they did have the advantage of being Masons with powerful roles, he also had pretty good reads for the most part. Sometimes he was spot on in his reads and then he would get a little off track, but usually came to back to suspecting the right people. He was on Christian and Badger from the start. The idea to have Schrauben claim his role was genius. (Not sure who's original idea it was but giving credit to both for doing it this way.) He was a bit defensive when attacked Night 0 but ended up surviving without having to claim - ever, so it didn't end up hurting him.
HOL: He did change his mind a lot and tracked a lot of townies who didn't go anywhere at night. When he thought Christian was scum but nobody else would bite, he just decided to focus on lynching Chris because he "annoyed him," even though he said he thought Chris was town at the time.

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Not buying Canuck's claim or just giving him the benefit of the doubt was silly. Claiming "Odd Night Vig" was pretty specific and could've easily been countered if it weren't true.

Hey..HEY!!!!!!! I was the only one who believed him right away and unlynched to lynch Ari instead!!!!!!!

But everyone told me I was being dumb and it made me paranoid that I was being too naive in trusting Canuck :(((

I should've stuck with my gut

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Angi HOL: Her targets for the most part were not great. Even targeting Christian was questionable since he was thought to be town cop by many. Attempting to block Curtis the night she died was puzzling as he was pretty pro-town.

lol wut angi

Angi had allowedtotargetsamepersonback2back-envy

Lmao wikey you're a fucking idiot. Anyone with eyes can tell I was kidding about lamps.

yeah curt why did you leave me hanging with the im317 lynch???

I never thought Christian was a cop so I'm not sure how blocking him would make HOL material lmfao The rest I agree with although Curtis just seemed super scummy especially being defensive because I didn't understand why he could bus the same person back to back but I couldn't block the same person back to back.

Curtis @ 8/12/2015 21:19

Angi had allowedtotargetsamepersonback2back-envy

Yes I did lol Why wasn't I allowed to block the same people back to back. Plus, you always act like scum :P

Who was the other lover?

Eben Etzebeth

Vic @ 8/12/2015 20:53

yeah curt why did you leave me hanging with the im317 lynch???

Same thing I did with Brian/Gmaj D1. Threw it out there but then got distracted and forgot to visit the thread in the last hour (:

Angi @ 8/12/2015 20:56

I never thought Christian was a cop so I'm not sure how blocking him would make HOL material lmfao The rest I agree with although Curtis just seemed super scummy especially being defensive because I didn't understand why he could bus the same person back to back but I couldn't block the same person back to back.

angi pls

Curtis @ 8/12/2015 21:12

Vic @ 8/12/2015 20:53 yeah curt why did you leave me hanging with the im317 lynch??? Same thing I did with Brian/Gmaj D1. Threw it out there but then got distracted and forgot to visit the thread in the last hour (:

HOL

Adding!

I HAD A BUS TO DRIVE

im317 - MAFIA Traitor - Killed Night 6

HOF: He was hinting in his own way to the Mafia Team by not being on any of their lynch trains.
HOL: Wasn't obvious enough to get his team to recruit him. Played pretty obviously scummy thoughout.

i take objection to this. i asked you what would happen if mafia tried to kill me and you said i would die. that made me have to play scummy enough that mafia would keep me alive but town enough that i wouldn't get lynched.

did the mafia have to specifically try and recruit me or was trying to kill me how they would recruit me?