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Post #31: 28th Jan 2019 8:48 PM 
Curtis did you kill Herm?
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Post #32: 28th Jan 2019 8:48 PM 
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:47
Mafia was really screwed too. TIB didn’t log in after D1, Rodney and spider with big early scum slips, and DS outs Farlig D2. It was looking like we were done do early


Fuck off I was not a scum slip
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Post #33: 28th Jan 2019 8:49 PM 
I guess mafia equaling the total number of living players would end it on the spot. Some hosts would end it immediately, some would only do it if the win is inevitable which this one obviously wasn't with Ahoda's unstoppable death. Weird situation but I won't fight it, I was really just going through the motions all game until I realized how few were left and that I might have a shot
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Post #34: 28th Jan 2019 8:50 PM 
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So I was going to claim aborigines that kills with blow dart gun as a SK then Zersch flipped and then I decided I’ll ignore all request to claim and claim military vet if forced. Wouldn’t have worked since curtis primes me though No one probably would have believed me anyways


You should be DEAD!

I dunno if I really agree with the night not playing out tbh, there was nothing you could do to save yourself against the unstoppable kill so the mafia win wasn't inevitable

but ohhhhhhh well

Part of what took me over an hour to update was me running scenarios to see if there was any way Mafia doesn't win. And the answer is...no. The key is that Havo also had unstoppable kills. No matter what happened, D9 would begin with Havo and one of Curtis/Spin. This obviously is a draw, which leads to a NL. and since Havo could once again unstoppable kill N9, while Curtis would need a night to prime and Spin had no power whatsoever, Mafia's victory is assured.

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Post #35: 28th Jan 2019 8:50 PM 
Basically, this game ended the moment Sock chose Mittens.
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Post #36: 28th Jan 2019 8:50 PM 
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:48
Curtis did you kill Herm?


Nope, I primed Primate/DS (he died the night before mine went off)/myself/you. Only got to get three kill choices in all game
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Post #37: 28th Jan 2019 8:50 PM 
Curtis @ 28/1/2019 21:49
I guess mafia equaling the total number of living players would end it on the spot. Some hosts would end it immediately, some would only do it if the win is inevitable which this one obviously wasn't with Ahoda's unstoppable death. Weird situation but I won't fight it, I was really just going through the motions all game until I realized how few were left and that I might have a shot



The day there were 4 or 5 deaths is when I noticed how close to endgame we were. That was probably the day the town truely lost

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Post #38: 28th Jan 2019 8:52 PM 
Helios Garabandia @ 28/1/2019 20:50
Curtis @ 28/1/2019 20:39
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:36
So I was going to claim aborigines that kills with blow dart gun as a SK then Zersch flipped and then I decided I’ll ignore all request to claim and claim military vet if forced. Wouldn’t have worked since curtis primes me though No one probably would have believed me anyways


You should be DEAD!

I dunno if I really agree with the night not playing out tbh, there was nothing you could do to save yourself against the unstoppable kill so the mafia win wasn't inevitable

but ohhhhhhh well

Part of what took me over an hour to update was me running scenarios to see if there was any way Mafia doesn't win. And the answer is...no. The key is that Havo also had an unstoppable kill. No matter what happened, D9 would begin with Havo and one of Curtis/Spin. This obviously is a draw, which leads to a NL. and since Havo could once again unstoppable kill N9, while Curtis would need a night to prime and Spin had no power whatsoever, Mafia's victory is assured.



Why's that final three on D9 a draw? What if Spin and I just lynch Havo?

I'm glad you did the win=inevitable angle either way, I like that more than the game just immediately ending even though it isn't necessarily assured
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Post #39: 28th Jan 2019 8:52 PM 
Curtis @ 28/1/2019 21:50
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:48
Curtis did you kill Herm?


Nope, I primed Primate/DS (he died the night before mine went off)/myself/you. Only got to get three kill choices in all game



How’s did Herm die? I must have missed that
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Post #41: 28th Jan 2019 8:53 PM 
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:52
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Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:48
Curtis did you kill Herm?


Nope, I primed Primate/DS (he died the night before mine went off)/myself/you. Only got to get three kill choices in all game



How’s did Herm die? I must have missed that


No idea

I still don't know how I ended up with Cody's box. I was telling the truth about that. Also don't know how I was seen visiting Zersch, I was telling the truth about that too. Surprised people just dropped all that

Also don't know how those three votes flipped or how TT mimicked Havo
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Post #42: 28th Jan 2019 8:53 PM 
Rodney @ 28/1/2019 21:48
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:47
Mafia was really screwed too. TIB didn’t log in after D1, Rodney and spider with big early scum slips, and DS outs Farlig D2. It was looking like we were done do early


Fuck off I was not a scum slip



Well for future games, you post a vote like that again and town ahoda will be all over you
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Post #43: 28th Jan 2019 8:54 PM 
Curtis @ 28/1/2019 21:53
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Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:48
Curtis did you kill Herm?


Nope, I primed Primate/DS (he died the night before mine went off)/myself/you. Only got to get three kill choices in all game



How’s did Herm die? I must have missed that


No idea

I still don't know how I ended up with Cody's box. I was telling the truth about that. Also don't know how I was seen visiting Zersch, I was telling the truth about that too. Surprised people just dropped all that

Also don't know how those three votes flipped or how TT mimicked Havo



The TT vote was from tib box. We were able to swing 3 votes anyway we wanted


I figured your box let you do the other stuff
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Post #44: 28th Jan 2019 8:55 PM 
I feel like nothing else should matter after it became 2/4. That's how mafia wins. Doesn't matter if one was primed to die, they met their conditions right there. Feels like it's arguing for a fumble after we broke the plane. Irrelevant to the call. No?
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Post #45: 28th Jan 2019 8:55 PM 
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 21:54
Curtis @ 28/1/2019 21:53
Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:52
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Ahoda @ 28/1/2019 20:48
Curtis did you kill Herm?


Nope, I primed Primate/DS (he died the night before mine went off)/myself/you. Only got to get three kill choices in all game



How’s did Herm die? I must have missed that


No idea

I still don't know how I ended up with Cody's box. I was telling the truth about that. Also don't know how I was seen visiting Zersch, I was telling the truth about that too. Surprised people just dropped all that

Also don't know how those three votes flipped or how TT mimicked Havo



The TT vote was from tib box. We were able to swing 3 votes anyway we wanted


I figured your box let you do the other stuff



For the record, we were using it regardless on that vote to swap to whomever since we knew tib was a goner the next day
Curtis @ 25/7/2017 9:44
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