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Eric Stein
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| Post #31: 29th Aug 2015 3:24:35 PM | |
No rush but I would like to be able to vote tonight so Erik, if you can, please submit the awards question by PM by tonight. | |
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Amanda Zuckerman
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| Post #32: 29th Aug 2015 3:30:30 PM | |
Eric's meaning uncensored. | Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History. |
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Erik Reichenbach
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| Post #33: 29th Aug 2015 4:00:46 PM | |
Fack, knew I was missing something.I'll get it to you tonight. | |
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Erik Reichenbach
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| Post #34: 29th Aug 2015 5:07:30 PM | |
Sent. | |
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Eric Stein
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| Post #35: 29th Aug 2015 6:09:06 PM | |
Thank you. I'll post results later. | |
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Erik Reichenbach
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| Post #36: 29th Aug 2015 10:21:43 PM | |
Results pls Eric | |
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Eric Stein
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| Post #37: 30th Aug 2015 3:17:35 AM | |
Ok so now before I reveal results, I would like to clarify a few things. The reason I always ask my power ranking question and the reason that this one replaced it is that it really shows perception of the season and the game around you. This, aside from strong gameplay, is one of the things that means the most to me. It certainly can be fun but it has a game purpose as well. Also, this is meant to be about how the season would be edited not my opinion or the finalists’ opinions or any of the juror’s opinions. So if this season were edited for TV, who would most likely be considered the hero, villain, etc. The second thing is that Jerri failed to care enough to provide explanations, even after I clarified in my thread for a second time that explanations were necessary. She also failed to answer her individual questions. So she cannot win my jury vote. I will however still reveal her results. Finally, some questions can leave a bit of room in terms of multiple answers so, to be fair, I gave an answer worth three points, one worth two, and one worth one. You want to have the most points at the end of this. Kmanda, due to stronger gameplay, you have leeway of about 3-5 points. Without further ado, here we go.
Biggest Hero
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The answer that would get 3 points is Ronnie. A hero every time he plays, Ronnie managed to be the underdog just about every round and a fierce fighter. He is the epitome of a hero. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Eric. I am almost never a hero but almost the entire jury agreed that I was the underdog for much of the game, constantly fighting to not only protect myself but to protect my allies as well. I was ultimately betrayed but went out standing up to the evil powers. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Kmanda. Depends on how you look at it but I think it’s safe to say that Zmanda was the biggest villain this series has ever seen and Kim (who was a common answer) was very clearly aligned with her. It’s difficult to call Kim a hero at least in my eyes and so the person who managed to take Zmanda out is the answer worth one point imo. |
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Jerri said Ronnie.
Kmanda said Kim.
Erik said Kim.
Jerri- 3
Kmanda- 0
Erik- 0 |
Biggest Villain
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The answer worth 3 points is Zmanda. No explanation necessary. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Yul. No explanation necessary. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Sierra. She was a greatly gifted played but her cutthroat antics and cold-blooded gameplay don’t really allow her to be classified anywhere else. |
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All three not surprisingly said Zmanda.
Jerri- 6
Kmanda- 3
Erik- 3 |
Best Story Arc
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The answer worth 3 points is Kmanda’s Rise from Inactive to Power Player. This will certainly be disagreed with but she was away and while albeit not missing much was pretty much inactive for two weeks. She came back as one of the least deserving players and managed to use key relationships with myself and Kim to branch out and be aligned with almost everyone in the game (including making F2s with Jeremiah and Jerri). She took out each threat in her way including Sierra, Kim, and Zmanda and got to the end despite not winning the F4 immunity. Even if she doesn’t win, I think this is a great story arc. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Kim's Rise Back into the Game. She went from not doing a whole ton premerge and being voted out to earning her spot back in the game after a herculean effort and becoming a huge power player in the postmerge game. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Ronnie's Comical Misadventures (sorry). He went from being voted out in the second round to putting a great effort into coming back in, only to be voted out 3 or 4 rounds later. Poor guy :( |
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Jerri said Kmanda.
Kmanda said Kim.
Erik said Jerri.
Jerri- 9
Kmanda- 5
Erik- 3 |
Best Rivalry
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The answer worth 3 points is Eric vs. Yul. This dictated much of the game as a lot of the premerge votes came down to me trying to take out one of Yul’s allies or him trying to take out one of mine. Finally, I was able to take him out in an epic vote but it still had repercussions as many people were unwilling to work with me for much of the game after this due to rumors he spread. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Amanda Z vs. Amanda K (and Eric for like 5 seconds). This dictated the last few rounds of the game as Zmanda got rid of one of Kmanda’s closest allies and Kmanda responded by turning on her alliance and taking out one of Zmanda’s closest allies. It led to many public fights (or as much of a fight as Kmanda would have lol) and round after round of them targeting each other. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Lindsey vs. Monica/Shontayla. LOL |
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Jerri said Jerri vs. Kim.
Kmanda said Eric vs. Yul.
Erik said Eric vs. Yul.
Jerri- 9
Kmanda- 8
Erik- 6 |
Dumbest Move
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The answer worth 3 points is Jerri taking Kmanda to FTC. Sorry but this was just a bad move that killed what was a pretty good endgame on Jerri's part. |
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The answer worth 2 points is ED putting up Michelle and Sierra. I wasn't there but from how it was described to me, it was a bad move. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Yul splitting the vote when his alliance didn't want to OR Yul votes out Julie. GG Yul. |
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All 3 said Jerri taking Kmanda to FTC.
Jerri- 12
Kmanda- 11
Erik- 9 |
OMG Moment
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The answer worth 3 points is Zmanda’s public attacks. Zmanda being Zmanda and crossing the line every which way while still being lovable to the host and even a few players. Every time she plays is an enjoyable experience to watch. |
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The answer worth 2 points is the Yul vote OR the Jeremiah vote. Both spectacular executions that left many people blindsided and are votes you can only hope to see on the actual show. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Kmanda turning on Kim. |
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Jerri said the Jeremiah vote.
Kmanda said her voting for Kim.
Erik said the Jeremiah vote.
Jerri- 14
Kmanda- 12
Erik- 11 |
Power Couple of the Season
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The answer worth 3 points is Kim and Zmanda. There really weren't many power couples this season and they controlled a lot of the early postmerge. They were set up well had it not been for the poor execution of my eviction. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Eric and Kmanda OR Kmanda and Jeremiah. Both key relationships that Kmanda was able to use to her advantage. Though her and I didn't do much together this game you can't deny Amandric. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Kim and Eric OR Yul and Zmanda OR Sierra and Zmanda OR Kim and Kmanda. All pairs that controlled small parts of the game at different times so why not. As I said there weren't many power couples. |
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Jerri said Kim and Kmanda.
Kmanda said Kim and Zmanda.
Erik said Kim and Kmanda.
Jerri- 15
Kmanda- 15
Erik- 12 |
Fan Favorite
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The answer worth 3 points is Eric. Like it or not, Mike and Joe (Worlds Apart), Spencer (Cagayan), Malcolm (Caramoan), Ozzy (South Pacific), etc. all have one thing in common which is that they were all underdogs. Most fan favorites happen to be. I was the biggest underdog in the game and being entertaining along with that would I think make me a fan favorite. Being ganged up on by a lot of people (mainly the people who will disagree with this) also helps to contribute to this. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Kim. She was an underdog for a huge part of the beginning of the game and has the type of personality that makes her very likable and easy to root for. Even if she eventually teamed up with Zmanda, I think the fan base would be a big fan. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Jeremiah, Kmanda, or Ronnie. Ronnie didn’t really make it that far but he was the definition of an underdog. Kmanda was a huge underdog too but I could see how the fans may be hesitant about rooting for her. Jeremiah is one of those players who would get a lot of fans just because of his style of play. |
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Jerri said Kim.
Kmanda said Kim.
Erik said Kim.
Jerri- 17
Kmanda- 17
Erik- 14 |
Most Entertaining for Abi to Watch
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The answer worth 3 points is Zmanda. Public gameplay is always enjoyable and I’d imagine her confessionals were good too. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Eric. #arrogance. I felt like my confessionals were enjoyable and my willingness to make moves was probably quite enjoyable. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Heather. Public Rites of Passage. That is all. |
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Jerri said Zmanda.
Kmanda said Zmanda.
Erik said Sierra.
Jerri- 20
Kmanda- 20
Erik- 14 |
Best Alliance
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The answer worth 3 points is Fuck Heather 2015. Unfortunately for me they dominated the game for most of the postmerge in one way or another. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Eric’s Twisted “Pregame.” Controlled the premerge. |
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The answer worth 1 point is whatever the girls’ alliance (Sierra, Zmanda, Shontayla, Yul, Michelle, Heather I think) was on the opposite tribe of me for most of the premerge. They controlled every premerge vote I didn’t. |
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Jerri said Fuck Heather 2015.
Kmanda said Fuck Heather 2015.
Erik said Outcasts (which based on his description is the girls' alliance thingy).
Jerri- 23
Kmanda- 23
Erik- 15 |
Best Parchment
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The answer worth 3 points is any of the three votes made by Zmanda for me during the Ronnie boot. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Eric’s vote for Erik at the Fabio boot OR Eric’s vote for Yul at the Fabio boot. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Kmanda’s vote for Zmanda during the Jeremiah boot. I wasn’t a huge fan tbh but popular demand wins out. |
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Jerri said Kmanda's vote for Kim during Kim's boot round.
Kmanda said her parchment for Zmanda during Jeremiah's boot round.
Erik said Eric's vote for him during the Fabio boot round.
Jerri- 23
Kmanda- 24
Erik- 17 |
Most Robbed
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The answer worth 3 points is Yul. Any big player taken out premerge is hard to not give them credit. Yul was in control for a lot of the premerge in one way or another and is THE reason my alliance struggled. This was arguably his game for a bit and even if his decision to split was questionable, he went largely because of factors he couldn’t control. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Jeremiah. Very good player who arguably had the game won if Zmanda went at 6 but an unexpected (on his part) idol play took him out just short of FTC. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Shontayla. I can’t speak from my own experience but from what I have heard she played a very good game and was another person eliminated premerge simply because she wasn’t around. That’s a very good definition of someone getting robbed. |
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Jerri said Shontayla.
Kmanda said Kim.
Erik said Jeremiah.
Jerri- 24
Kmanda- 24
Erik- 19 |
Best/Smartest Move
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The answer worth 3 points is Jerri Blindsiding Jeremiah. I have to give credit where credit is due and this move was the defining moment of Jerri’s game. She took out the second biggest threat left to win, left herself room to take out the biggest threat next round, and would have had a guaranteed win had she finished it out at F4. Great move. |
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The answer worth 2 points is Eric/Kim/Jeremiah Blindsiding Yul. Great move that put our whole alliance in a great spot coming out of the premerge followed up by another solid vote for Michelle. Had the first challenge of the merge not been so luck based, we would’ve been in a solid position to destroy the merge. |
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The answer worth 1 point is Kmanda Votes Out Kim OR Erik/Yul Blindside Fabio. Both great moves that took out huge threats at those respective points in the game. |
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Jerri said the Yul blindside.
Kmanda said the Jeremiah blindside.
Erik said the Jeremiah blindside. |
And winning immunity for the third time in a row, guaranteeing himself a spot in the F4, after having just voted off arch-nemesis Eddie, the true challenge beast:
No but seriously, with a winning score of 27, having beaten Erik and Jerri (whose answers didn't even count) and without even having to use the leeway that her gameplay provided her:
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Final Score:
Jerri- 26
Kmanda- 27
Erik- 22 |
Congratulations! I think this really shows game awareness as I said at the beginning and that paired with good gameplay really defines the good players in these games. I got what I needed from my jury question and I hope the other jurors did too. Good luck finalists and remember to always give your dreams a chance.
Here are their lists:
Erik's
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Biggest Hero - Probably Kim. If JT was considered a hero, then Kim is in the exact same ballpark. A killer social game and a decent strategic player, and one who some people wanted to take to the end not because they could beat her. Plus every talk you have with her just bleeds being genuine.
Biggest Villain - This season had no shortage of villains, but probably Zmanda was the biggest and most notorious. Whether it be her political incorrectness or her public, personal attacks against vunerable people. She also made the game much more chaotic throughout the premerge and postmerge.
Best Story Arc - I'm thinking Jerri. She starts the game as someone who's not in a very good position and slowly gained more power as the game goes on, eventually being able to control every single vote at the end of the game with her respectful nature ultimately leading to her demise.
Best Rivalry - Eric vs Yul. I was going to put Jerri vs Kim, but then I thought again, and this rivalry dictated a good portion of the premerge and started from the very first vote. With Jerri vs Kim, it was moreso Jerri trying to get Kim out while Kim was playing the game, while Eric vs Yul was an intense battle, causing them to butt heads for the entire premerge up until a satisfyingly fitting conclusion of Yul's paranoia getting the best of him.
Dumbest Move - Jerri taking Kmanda to the end. She had the win in her hands and then decided that the jury would respect bringing a strong contestant to the end. Like, lolwut. You haven't been playing for two months just to lose. That's what everyone else would have done.
OMG Moment - Jerri giving her idol to Zmanda to take out Jeremiah. I don't think anyone saw that coming. Almost everyone had assumed she would just play the idol on herself, why wouldn't she, but then she plays it on Zmanda just to take out what she perceived as a threat (he was). This game had plenty of OMG moments, but this kind of decided how the rest of the game was going to go.
Power Couple of the Season - I couldn't really think of any obvious power couples besides Kmanda and Kim. Obviously that fell apart with Kim's boot, but before then, they told each other everything and were inseparable. Kmanda betrays her, that's a thing, but everyone, before then, knew how close they were.
Fan Favorite (Twistee of the Season) - Kim. The huge threat that comes back into the game and wins the hearts of everyone that plays and everyone that is watching. She played an amazing game, and she no doubt would have won if she got to the end, which she was certainly poised to do. Plus she had a grat sense of humor.
Most Entertaining for Abi to watch (can’t do confessionals so just in general) - Sierra. She must have been insanely excited watching her spin a dominant wrb over the game, and seeing her be voted out would have been a satisfying conclusion to her empire.
Best Alliance (can’t do name) - The Outcast Alliance that included me, Sierra, Sundra, Zmanda, and Jerri. Most alliances were up for grabs every round, but this one stayed consistent for a few rounds, which seemed rare in this game. The Twisted alliance crumbled pretty hard too, and that was entertaining, but this was probably the most solid ome that came out of the merge.
Best Parchment - Probably the Erik vote that came from Eric on my idol play. The irony alone from it was absolutely hilarious. I mean, yeah, there were a lot of cool ones that came from Kmanda, but this one took the cake for me.
Most Robbed - It's probably Jeremiah. Dude would have no doubt gotten to the end had it not been for Jerri's move. He was looking good and he had no reason to worry at that vote until Jerri decided to go rogue. Bottom line, had it not been for Jerri, I think Jeremiah would have won.
Best/Smartest Move - Ugh, this is a tough one. I think I'm going to go with Jerri's move to boot Jeremiah though. It was akin to Natalie Anderson's, "Did you vote for who I told you to vote for?" It showed who was running the show and she took out a huge social threat at the same time, making a huge risk playing an idol on someone else. |
Jerri's
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Biggest Hero- Ronnie
Biggest Villain- Zamanda
Best Story Arc- Kamanda
Best Rivalry- Jerri vs Kim
Dumbest Move- Jerri taking Kamanda to finals?
OMG Moment- Jeremiah's blindside
Power Couple of the Season- Kim and Kamanda
Fan Favorite (Twistee of the Season)-Kim
Most Entertaining for Abi to watch (can’t do confessionals so just in general)-Zamanda
Best Alliance (can’t do name)- Fuck Heather 2015 (Kim Kamanda Sierra Zamanda and Jeremiah)
Best Parchment- Kamanda's parchement for Kim
Most Robbed-Shontayla
Best/Smartest Move- Yul's blindside |
Kmanda's
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Biggest Hero: Kim - always tried to protect the people she cared about most (until one of them was the reason she got eliminated) even if it wasn't the absolute best for her game (although it usually was).
Biggest Villain: Zamanda - would be me if Zamanda didn't go on the public attack, but she did and said some pretty controversial stuff
Best Story Arc - Kim coming back from Los Muertos to eventually be in a position to run the game. (Also includes a devastating downfall due to someone her and everyone else least expected). An ultimate underdog story and everyone loves the story of the rise and fall of a hero.
Best Rivalry: Eric vs Yul? I would say Zamanda vs. Me after voting out Kim but it was short lived and fairly one sided. The game at one point appeared to be what people perceived as Eric's Alliance vs. Yul's Alliance.
Dumbest Move: if I win I guess taking me to FTC? Lol. If I don't then
OMG Moment: Me voting for Kim - I think this came as a surprise doe pretty much everyone. Me making it to FTC is another contender, as is Sierra being voted out. I just think purely surprise wise me doing anything against Kim would probably take the cake.
Power Couple of the Season: Kim and Zamanda - in control of several of the merge votes and was ultimately broken apart BECAUSE of their threat status.
Fan Favorite: Kim - Abi said it herself, that she loved to read Kim's confessionals (and Abi is the most major of viewers/fan) and also Kim came off very sociable and well liked.
Most Entertaining to Watch: Zamanda - does this really require an explanation? Just read any creative writing piece or public speech she has ever made.
Best Alliance: Fk Heather 2015 (Jeremiah, Sierra, Zamanda, Kim, Kamanda) - we just had a great time talking in the group chat tbh lol. Also were in control of a bunch of the middle merge.
Best Parchment: MY PARCHMENT FOR ZAMANDA THAT GOT NULLED BY AN IDOL. I was so proud of that lol and I got so mad when it went for naught (and obviously at the result too).
Most Robbed: Kim - first getting swap effed just to come back into the game just to be betrayed by someone she implicitly trusted.
Best/Smartest Move: Jerri idols and gets rid of Jeremiah - gotta give credit where credit is due, this move essentially let Jerri choose who she wanted to see eliminated for that round and she chose one of the biggest threats left in the game. No bad blood on her hands or anything (or well minimal bad blood). |
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Erik Reichenbach
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| Post #38: 30th Aug 2015 3:28:26 AM | |
It's kinda weird that this thing can be graded like a paper. It's really about private perception of the game. There shouldn't be a question like, "Who is the greatest Democratic president?" And then getting an answer wrong because you said John F. Kennedy. But hey, if this is how you want your jury vote to be decided, that's your decision and your right in the game. | |
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Eric Stein
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| Post #39: 30th Aug 2015 10:43:16 AM | |
It was supposed to be more of a combination of many people's perspectives to get a more accurate read but my fellow jury members are lazy. My vote isn't decided solely by this but if it were executed more properly (cough jury cough) it would be a more accurate indicator of game awareness. | |
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Amanda Zuckerman
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| Post #40: 30th Aug 2015 11:09:03 AM | |
I would have just put myself for everything | Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History. |
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The Yul Kwon
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| Post #41: 30th Aug 2015 1:55:10 PM | |
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I would have just put myself for everything | Shocker
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Amanda Kimmel
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| Post #42: 30th Aug 2015 2:08:15 PM | |
I'm sorry, but how is this NOT the best parchment?
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Ronnie Talbott
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I'm sorry, but how is this NOT the best parchment?
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The Yul Kwon
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Amanda Kimmel
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I'm sorry, but how is this NOT the best parchment?
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Having FAR too much time on my hands in photoshop.
Ok I can dig this one too. I think the gif theme is probably my fave so far (thanks for the initial improvement of the idea Yul). | |
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